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Old 10-13-2016, 12:35 PM   #3001
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Definitely not just Hailey. Most of my customers get in the car and crank it one way or the other. Sometimes I want to ask them "Do you REALLY want it to be 90 degrees in here? REALLY FOOL?"

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Old 10-13-2016, 12:40 PM   #3002
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Is the "Auto" climate control "dual zone?"

If so, that's really nice if you and the other half like different temps. This one girl I'm seeing, I'll typically have the air on my side while she has the heated seat on and the temp up a litte higher on her side.
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Old 10-13-2016, 01:24 PM   #3003
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This is actually a pretty **** feature to those that don't have it (crap, I mean it's a "great" feature - sorry about the locker room talk). Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car. My value: $400.
It's not about the words, it's how you use them.

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Old 10-13-2016, 01:34 PM   #3004
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Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car.
My wife makes me ******* crazy with this.
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Old 10-13-2016, 02:50 PM   #3005
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Large construction equipment all has automatic a/c temp control. Even still I can't get in a machine that hasn't been set to 63F by the previous inhabitant. I use it properly but would still prefer cable operated simplicity and reliability.
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Old 10-13-2016, 03:04 PM   #3006
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Large construction equipment all has automatic a/c temp control. Even still I can't get in a machine that hasn't been set to 63F by the previous inhabitant. I use it properly but would still prefer cable operated simplicity and reliability.
Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as ****. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:25 PM   #3007
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Auto climate control systems are stupid, I'd much rather have the old three-*****-and-two-buttons version that my NB uses.

Why are they stupid? Well, they're using a thermostat to target a given interior ambient air temperature. In a house that's not a bad idea, because that's a good proxy for occupant comfort level. In a car it's not, the big panes of glass everywhere means that the question of whether or not the sun is beating down on you is much more relevant than in a house. I don't *want* the car to be at 70F, what I want is to be able to directly control the temperature and speed of the air that's blowing on me.

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Old 10-13-2016, 06:38 PM   #3008
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My BRZ has "Auto" and "Dual" zone climate control. But it's only "Auto" if you hit that button.
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:57 PM   #3009
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I am not bothered by heat or cold. Does not effect me.
All I need is a decent defroster so I can see where I am going.
So, screw the fancy schmancy climate control crap.
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:22 PM   #3010
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I am not bothered by heat or cold. Does not effect me.
All I need is a decent defroster so I can see where I am going.
So, screw the fancy schmancy climate control crap.
LOL. You have no idea what heat and cold is. Whatever difficulties Turkey has, a harsh climate is not one of them. You have a beautiful country, BTW!
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Old 10-13-2016, 09:23 PM   #3011
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LOL. You have no idea what heat and cold is. Whatever difficulties Turkey has, a harsh climate is not one of them. You have a beautiful country, BTW!
I do.
20 years in Anchorage, AK.
Known to be cold.
And working under stacks and stacks of lights all summer, where plastic screens were melting.
Or, translating training lectures for equine vets in the field, in 40C weather (100+F) in southern Turkey...

Didn't bother me.
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Old 10-14-2016, 06:00 PM   #3012
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Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as ****. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.
Until you drive a vehicle in which it just works. Our 2006 Odyssey has excellent logic controlling the hvac system. Other than adjusting the temp up or down a bit, maybe hitting the defroster button, I don't have to interact with it at all. It just works. Triple zone allows everyone to be comfortable (only driver/passenger are automatic, rear is adjust as you want).

Compare to Subaru's offerings. Our 2006 Outback in New Zealand appeared to have climate control, it would let you set a temperature, but worked so miserably I was manually adjusting what/where/how hard it blew all the time, but with stupid have-to-look-at-them buttons instead of the 3-**** manual control standard that has existed for decades that allows you to just adjust that **** without taking your eyes off the road. Our 2016 Outback here in the States is quite a bit better, but still makes weird decisions about where to have the fan blowing sometimes.

The Odyssey just works.
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Until you drive a vehicle in which it just works. Our 2006 Odyssey has excellent logic controlling the hvac system. Other than adjusting the temp up or down a bit, maybe hitting the defroster button, I don't have to interact with it at all. It just works. Triple zone allows everyone to be comfortable (only driver/passenger are automatic, rear is adjust as you want).
We have a 2007 Odyssey, it's no better than the other auto climate control systems. Fundamentally the problem is that it's measuring the wrong thing.

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We have a 2007 Odyssey, it's no better than the other auto climate control systems. Fundamentally the problem is that it's measuring the wrong thing.

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2007 sucks then. 2006 is the bomb. Sorry you got a bad year.
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Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as ****. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.
You do know that if you just left it set at 60whatever it would just do exactly what you're doing now right? The auto climat control in the wrx is awesome. If you set it cole when its blisteringy hot outside it'll run everything full blast and then slowly bring the fan speed down while full cold, and if it manages to keep up at that point once the fan is low it'll start blending in some warm air, but it'll never get to that if its over 90.
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You do know that if you just left it set at 60whatever it would just do exactly what you're doing now right? The auto climat control in the wrx is awesome. If you set it cole when its blisteringy hot outside it'll run everything full blast and then slowly bring the fan speed down while full cold, and if it manages to keep up at that point once the fan is low it'll start blending in some warm air, but it'll never get to that if its over 90.
I've tried it. It was annoying and terrible. It's much easier for me to just set it to full cold and adjust it manually. I maybe touch it twice while driving and it consumes a total of 5 seconds of my time while doing a better job than the native logic. It's a 2003 so I am not sure if it's just because it is an older system that is not as good at it.
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#firstworldproblems
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I still want a Sport. Arrrrrrrhhhhh!!!!!
Buy mine in a few months
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Buy mine in a few months
Sorry. Has to be an '18 or later. I always give Mazda at least a couple of years to refine a new design.
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Starting to sound like miata.net in here! This must be remedied.



Taking the ND out to the GTA Finals in a few weeks. We'll be running it in the entry-level Enthusiast RWD class. Looking at the entries, we're going to be up against M3s, 350Z, etc. Should be fun.
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