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Old 01-31-2015, 06:15 PM   #641
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- until you have the need to pass someone who doesn't particularly feel like being passed.

.. decision to add abnormal aspiration was cemented during an otherwise lovely drive through ... stuck behind some dipshit on a Harley. ... Now, with unholy amounts of power on tap, people like that become somewhat amusing moving chicanes and my blood pressure has normalized.
LOL that's exactly my motivation as well, 14 years ago.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:18 PM   #642
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.... but this is showing a direct drop in from the 3 on 87 octane. Wouldn't they at least release it with the 91 octane tune from Europe that puts out a little more power or tune it for 93 octane and breach 170hp?
Nooooo!! Tuned for 87 is GOOD NEWS because it means it will happily run some boost on 91 !!!!!
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:22 PM   #643
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Nooooo!! Tuned for 87 is GOOD NEWS because it means it will happily run some boost on 91 !!!!!
Its still going to have stratospherical compression like the rest of the skyativ motors, the difference between an 87 tune and a 93 tune from mazda would almost certainly be in spark timing and fueling, which you'd be changing anyways with the tarbo.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:23 PM   #644
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Is the dude at 0:41 in the stripped miata someone we know?

And is that a Fabworx cage?
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Old 01-31-2015, 08:44 PM   #645
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Is the dude at 0:41 in the stripped miata someone we know?

And is that a Fabworx cage?
Yes and yes. Not me, but we'll see if he speaks up.

Also: Jalopnik.com: Of Course Flyin' Miata Will Stick A V8 Into The New Miata

Sounds like Keith knows a little more than he's sharing
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So he wants it to be quicker......shocker!
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:14 AM   #648
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I truly don't get why people are complaining.

How many have said (maybe not in our group, but in general):

Why are new cars so fat? Wouldn't it be wonderful if they made a new original Miata, but one that meets new safety and fuel economy standards?

Well, they did. The base price for the 1990 Miata was $13,800, or $25k in today's money, and this base car has far, far more equipment than that car could have dreamed of... with nearly the same weight.

It's fantastic, guys.

As for the 2.0.... They significantly tweaked the 1.5 for Miata duty. They're going to do something to the 2.0.

Just watch.
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So he wants it to be quicker......shocker!
Don't know anything about that, i just saw the flame out the exhaust pipe.
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As for the 2.0.... They significantly tweaked the 1.5 for Miata duty. They're going to do something to the 2.0.

Just watch.
At a minimum, it has to have different manifolds to be mounted longitudinally. And the torque curve needs tweaking to support the 7.5K redline. So . . . .

Mazda's done a great job building up the anticipation for this car.

And +1 on the lightness. Awesome!!

So, Ed, what's the friend discount?
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Don't know anything about that, i just saw the flame out the exhaust pipe.
Pretty sure that was just glare off the exhaust tip.
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:32 AM   #652
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Thread title is horribly inaccurate.

It is a ******* cesspool on m.net. I know that this may come as a shock to some, but people here have been extremely cordial and haven't **** on each other.
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Thread title is horribly inaccurate.

It is a ******* cesspool on m.net. I know that this may come as a shock to some, but people here have been extremely cordial and haven't **** on each other.
Shut your ---- mouth you ------ ****.
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I truly don't get why people are complaining.

How many have said (maybe not in our group, but in general):

Why are new cars so fat? Wouldn't it be wonderful if they made a new original Miata, but one that meets new safety and fuel economy standards?

Well, they did. The base price for the 1990 Miata was $13,800, or $25k in today's money, and this base car has far, far more equipment than that car could have dreamed of... with nearly the same weight.

It's fantastic, guys.

As for the 2.0.... They significantly tweaked the 1.5 for Miata duty. They're going to do something to the 2.0.

Just watch.
I am only complaining about the engine. The ND looks great and is very light. Hats off to Mazda on both fronts. However, I find it insulting that they would swap in a completely unmodified 2.0 from the 3 and call it a day on the engine. It doesn't even appear that they tuned it at all. I have also seen no indication that the 2.0 has a higher redline than the 6.5k redline from the 3.

I hope you are right and that they have/will tweak the 2.0. I wasn't expecting 200hp. I would have been satisfied with rouvhly 170hp. However, if it is only going to have 155hp I hope that they raised the redline to at least 7 grand and dropped the compression so it can accept boost easier.
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M.net is full of angry, bitter gays and MT.net has all of the bubbly, flamboyant, show-tunes gays.
It's unfortunate, but some gays just don't love kitties.
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but some gays just don't love kitties.
This is precisely why the ban-hammer was created.
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I am only complaining about the engine. The ND looks great and is very light. Hats off to Mazda on both fronts. However, I find it insulting that they would swap in a completely unmodified 2.0 from the 3 and call it a day on the engine. It doesn't even appear that they tuned it at all. I have also seen no indication that the 2.0 has a higher redline than the 6.5k redline from the 3.

I hope you are right and that they have/will tweak the 2.0. I wasn't expecting 200hp. I would have been satisfied with rouvhly 170hp. However, if it is only going to have 155hp I hope that they raised the redline to at least 7 grand and dropped the compression so it can accept boost easier.
Haven't they done this in the past?
Maybe they're leaving the "tweaking" up to the individual. Is it an 87 octane motor? Maybe they want to keep it that way as your aunt won't want to put premium in.
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Haven't they done this in the past?
Maybe they're leaving the "tweaking" up to the individual. Is it an 87 octane motor? Maybe they want to keep it that way as your aunt won't want to put premium in.
They have always tuned the motor specifically for the miata resulting in a slight power bump over the economy car version. Mazda also directly stated that all motor variants would be tuned specifically for the ND. So I thought it was safe to assume a similar approach as in the past. If I were going to buy this car new I wouldn't want to have to tune it for 93 octane myself risking grebading the motor and voiding my warranty just to get the power bump it should have had anyway.

Edit: If Mazda offers a factory tune or supercharger kit through mazdaspeed that doesn't void the warranty at an extra cost I would be fine with that.
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I'm still holding out hope that something will change.... or that it just drives so damn well that nobody will care.

It just feels like a missed opportunity though. They totally could have done more and have simply chosen not to.

But again... there's still a sliver of hope...
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I'm still holding out hope that something will change.... or that it just drives so damn well that nobody will care.

It just feels like a missed opportunity though. They totally could have done more and have simply chosen not to.

But again... there's still a sliver of hope...
There is no reason for an RX8 or successor if they power the Miata the way they should.
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