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Old 10-05-2015, 03:24 PM   #1761
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Oh yeah, I know that its coming down to pad selection for the most part. It's just funny seeing stuff like

From the armchair crowd.
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Old 10-05-2015, 03:40 PM   #1762
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:43 PM   #1763
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The front brakes on this car were Brembo's as well. Single piston sliding caliper Brembo's:




Yup, the Fiat 850 Spider. Brembo wasn't always synonymous with performance.
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Emilio (949Racing) ran our 4-piston Front Caliper Upgrade on standard rotors on their orange ND.

Emilio is a monster behind the wheel, as anyone who has raced or ridden with him knows. We're excited to have 949 putting our kit through its paces. The pads they ran in the front for the weekend were medium/light duty track pads, and they hit the temperature ceiling on those. An avanced driver on tackday tires will need an aggressive track pad to last full sessions with standard sized rotors. Post-weekend reports from them on hardware performance show that the kit worked flawlessly, so I'm sure that with a pad change they'll be dialed in.

Alternatively, we ran our new BBK on the reflex blue ND all weekend with a medium/heavy duty track pad, and not only never saw an ounce of fade but we even all commented that we could have ran a less aggressive pad with confidence.

So, the standard rotor sizes are up to the task as long as you run a very focused, high-friction/temp pad for the track to handle those very high temperatures they'll be running at, whereas the BBK has more inherent torque and can shed heat so much faster that average temperatures are lower and a less aggressive pad is needed.
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Old 10-05-2015, 09:02 PM   #1765
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So what you're saying is- 100% normal, standard method for how braking systems work. I'm shocked

OEM sized rotors, agressive pad and shortened life spans.
Larger rotors, longer life pads and/or ultra aggressive pads not needed.
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Old 10-06-2015, 12:08 AM   #1766
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And yet, somehow it is a revelation that needs spelling out to some... (not this crowd)
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Old 10-06-2015, 02:46 AM   #1767
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But what about the OUTRAGE of Mazda willfully trying to kill their helpless, innocent customers just to make an extra $52 in profit per car? Why would you bother trying to understand something when you can just pretend to be an expert and toss blame around?


Nevermind. For a second there, I forgot that I was on the internet.
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Old 10-06-2015, 11:12 AM   #1768
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Someone who was at MRLS is pondering why he was 5 seconds slower than Randy Pobst for Motortrend; he's sure it's the tires.

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I do wonder exactly what tires Pobst was on. I couldn't get below 1:55.0 in my ND on Friday on stock street tires. They just turned to goo after about 4 laps. Then again, I'm not a top race car driver (not even close...).
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I'm still wondering if they used better tires for that. He's a great driver, no doubt...
Pobst drove a (poorly) swapped 1.8L Miata at a Chump Car race a few years ago and was about 2 seconds faster than everyone else (including the car owners) on a 55 second course. Maybe being a pro driver might mean something... maybe...
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Old 10-06-2015, 01:15 PM   #1769
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Someone who was at MRLS is pondering why he was 5 seconds slower than Randy Pobst for Motortrend; he's sure it's the tires.





Pobst drove a (poorly) swapped 1.8L Miata at a Chump Car race a few years ago and was about 2 seconds faster than everyone else (including the car owners) on a 55 second course. Maybe being a pro driver might mean something... maybe...
lulz.

D-K applies to race drivers; "I'm on the ragged edge of control, chewing up tires and eating brakes so I know this car can't go any faster. That other driver must be cheating/has better tires/has more horsepower.."
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Old 10-06-2015, 01:53 PM   #1770
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I bet I could beat Randy in an eating contest...


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Old 10-06-2015, 02:13 PM   #1771
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He is a scronny little dude.

Edit: dammit I knew that word didn't look right.

Scrawny indeed.

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He is a scronny little dude.

Edit: dammit I knew that word didn't look right.

Scrawny indeed.
Damn it!
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Old 10-06-2015, 06:07 PM   #1774
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IT'S ONE WORD DAMMIT.
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Old 10-07-2015, 02:56 AM   #1775
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yup
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Ryan driving the GWR ND -




Blackbird Fabworx ND RZ roll bar

That's a 5'11" driver with a helmet sitting on a bone stock leather seat, roughly flush with the bar and ~1" under broomstick.
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Old 10-07-2015, 10:35 PM   #1777
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Bought an ND tonight. It's OK, I guess.

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I bet I could beat Randy at Pikes Peak this year ^^^ Nice pick up. Review?
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Bought an ND tonight. It's OK, I guess.
What trim did you get? Club? GT?

Love the color
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Old 10-07-2015, 10:59 PM   #1780
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That's a club with Brembo/BBS package.

Purdy, no doubt.
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