No alternator, no water pump, no problem
06-22-2009, 02:59 PM
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No alternator, no water pump, no problem
Yesterday on the highway my water temp started to quickly climb. I took the next exit and parked the car. Inspection shows that the bolt holding the alternator to the tensioning bolt snapped off, leaving the end of it still in the alternator and therefore no way for me to put a new bolt in roadside - I'll need to drill out the old bolt end first... this failure eliminated the tension on the belt, so the belt jumped off the pulley. And so now my car is over on a random street, sad and lonely, and my motorcycle is down for repairs right now too so my girlfriend had to pick me up.
So here's the dealio - can I pull the belt off and limp this sucker the 5-6 miles to my home on no alternator/no water pump? I know the car can run a couple hours sans-alternator, but I'm not sure about the pump.. I've got an aftermarket water gauge, which is how I quickly noticed the problem at first (even when it was reading 230 degrees, the stock water temp gauge was still in the normal range) so if it gets too warm I can always pull over and let it cool before continuing...
I know it's not the best thing to do but... can I do it?
Thoughts?
-Ryan
So here's the dealio - can I pull the belt off and limp this sucker the 5-6 miles to my home on no alternator/no water pump? I know the car can run a couple hours sans-alternator, but I'm not sure about the pump.. I've got an aftermarket water gauge, which is how I quickly noticed the problem at first (even when it was reading 230 degrees, the stock water temp gauge was still in the normal range) so if it gets too warm I can always pull over and let it cool before continuing...
I know it's not the best thing to do but... can I do it?
Thoughts?
-Ryan
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06-22-2009, 03:26 PM
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No. You shouldn't drive more than a couple blocks on an engine with no flowing water. My guess is that if you did do that, you would be home in about 3 days.
Seriously though, I would get it towed. If you can't do a proper fix there to get it home, the cost of a tow truck for 5 miles offsets the possibility of screwing up even more stuff. It will probably cost you $75, if that, and couple possibly save your engine.
Seriously though, I would get it towed. If you can't do a proper fix there to get it home, the cost of a tow truck for 5 miles offsets the possibility of screwing up even more stuff. It will probably cost you $75, if that, and couple possibly save your engine.
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06-22-2009, 04:59 PM
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Word. Tow it.
Either that or try to find a way to swap out the alternator, not sure if you can though based on your description. But I would think you could remove the tensioner bracket bolt at the engine and the lower alternator bolt at the engine, pull the alternator and bracket assy, fix it, then reinstall.
Either that or try to find a way to swap out the alternator, not sure if you can though based on your description. But I would think you could remove the tensioner bracket bolt at the engine and the lower alternator bolt at the engine, pull the alternator and bracket assy, fix it, then reinstall.
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06-22-2009, 07:03 PM
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Ok, I took the advice that I absolutely needed the water pump... so I went home and got the zip ties... hahahaha ohhhh yea.
Zip tied the alternator to the tensioning bracket with what qualifies as the most ghetto overuse of zip ties ever. About 20 zips held that mother onto the car with just enough tension on the belt to keep it on, but hey, it was spinning the water pump! Got it home just a little while ago, temps were perfect.
Zip tied the alternator to the tensioning bracket with what qualifies as the most ghetto overuse of zip ties ever. About 20 zips held that mother onto the car with just enough tension on the belt to keep it on, but hey, it was spinning the water pump! Got it home just a little while ago, temps were perfect.
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06-24-2009, 01:22 AM
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So it's fixed. I changed both alternator bolts to grade 8 ones, and although they thread into and through the alternator casting and should hold tight just fine as per mazda's original design, I put a lock washer and nut on the back side of each bolt. Not going anywhere now.
It couldn't have been possible without the zip ties...
It couldn't have been possible without the zip ties...
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06-24-2009, 10:02 AM
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Ok, I took the advice that I absolutely needed the water pump... so I went home and got the zip ties... hahahaha ohhhh yea.
Zip tied the alternator to the tensioning bracket with what qualifies as the most ghetto overuse of zip ties ever. About 20 zips held that mother onto the car with just enough tension on the belt to keep it on, but hey, it was spinning the water pump! Got it home just a little while ago, temps were perfect.
Zip tied the alternator to the tensioning bracket with what qualifies as the most ghetto overuse of zip ties ever. About 20 zips held that mother onto the car with just enough tension on the belt to keep it on, but hey, it was spinning the water pump! Got it home just a little while ago, temps were perfect.
Zipties own all
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06-24-2009, 10:27 AM
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Shane, your kidding right?
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