Turbo Miata vs Mustang GT?
01-03-2010, 08:29 AM
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A discussion with all the **** talk that this one has, at my place of work would warrant a stack of fives on someone's desk and a number on the board for an over/under wager. I think if the OP's diff hangs together, he wins against shitstang. The stang will run 15.2 with no real substantial mods. I would put a 14.0 on the board for the Miata, and I'd put a five-spot on the over. I say he runs a 14.2. My 1.6 running 14psi boost through the IC, I say would run 13.8 or slower. I would think it would be tough to get a Miata into the lower 13.0/high 12, I'd be interested to see what hustlefucker's or Savington's does in the quarter.
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01-03-2010, 06:59 PM
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How do you figure it would be hard. People do it all the time, and there are plenty of members on here that have done it. Go to the timeslip section and see.
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01-03-2010, 11:54 PM
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I might be missing something here, but why should the Miata even run slicks on ths one? We are talking about a pretty easy to spool turbo running low boost. Of all the setups out there, this one needs race rubber far less than say a 2860 setup. So no need to risk the diff. Just do a mild launch out and then nail it. With the Torsen so much the better, but still no real need for slicks.
With 20 inch wheels and a mostly stock long block save for the cam (maybe) I bet on the Miata in a big way unless there is some BS involved and the Mustang is spraying or something along those lines. A wheel size like that kills the gearing of the car, the verts are relatively heavy, and Windsor engines in general are slow unless modded well. They are certanly a cheap engine to mod, but in stockish form they are not too scary. We are talking about an engine that makes low 200s HP in stock form, and about 300TQ. Put some crap mods on it, allow for age and probable abuse, and it's not much of a threat.
If he is worried about passing tech then he will almost certanly not be able to run slicks either. Slicks and a vert will generally get a pretty strict tech inspection compared to a hard-top on street tires.
With 20 inch wheels and a mostly stock long block save for the cam (maybe) I bet on the Miata in a big way unless there is some BS involved and the Mustang is spraying or something along those lines. A wheel size like that kills the gearing of the car, the verts are relatively heavy, and Windsor engines in general are slow unless modded well. They are certanly a cheap engine to mod, but in stockish form they are not too scary. We are talking about an engine that makes low 200s HP in stock form, and about 300TQ. Put some crap mods on it, allow for age and probable abuse, and it's not much of a threat.
If he is worried about passing tech then he will almost certanly not be able to run slicks either. Slicks and a vert will generally get a pretty strict tech inspection compared to a hard-top on street tires.
Last edited by Sparetire; 01-04-2010 at 12:03 AM. Reason: If he is.....
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01-04-2010, 12:43 AM
#105
I might be missing something here, but why should the Miata even run slicks on ths one? We are talking about a pretty easy to spool turbo running low boost. Of all the setups out there, this one needs race rubber far less than say a 2860 setup. So no need to risk the diff. Just do a mild launch out and then nail it. With the Torsen so much the better, but still no real need for slicks.
With 20 inch wheels and a mostly stock long block save for the cam (maybe) I bet on the Miata in a big way unless there is some BS involved and the Mustang is spraying or something along those lines. A wheel size like that kills the gearing of the car, the verts are relatively heavy, and Windsor engines in general are slow unless modded well. They are certanly a cheap engine to mod, but in stockish form they are not too scary. We are talking about an engine that makes low 200s HP in stock form, and about 300TQ. Put some crap mods on it, allow for age and probable abuse, and it's not much of a threat.
If he is worried about passing tech then he will almost certanly not be able to run slicks either. Slicks and a vert will generally get a pretty strict tech inspection compared to a hard-top on street tires.
With 20 inch wheels and a mostly stock long block save for the cam (maybe) I bet on the Miata in a big way unless there is some BS involved and the Mustang is spraying or something along those lines. A wheel size like that kills the gearing of the car, the verts are relatively heavy, and Windsor engines in general are slow unless modded well. They are certanly a cheap engine to mod, but in stockish form they are not too scary. We are talking about an engine that makes low 200s HP in stock form, and about 300TQ. Put some crap mods on it, allow for age and probable abuse, and it's not much of a threat.
If he is worried about passing tech then he will almost certanly not be able to run slicks either. Slicks and a vert will generally get a pretty strict tech inspection compared to a hard-top on street tires.
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01-04-2010, 12:54 AM
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Thanks! I did a decent bit of drag racing with my 93 Laser back in the day. Now looking at putting a lot of those parts on a Miata 
One of the things I learned from the drag strip is that generally most of the cars there dont run as quick/fast as they ought to. You will see some thunderous V8 with a camshaft that has more lift than some cranks have stroke, and it'll run a 12.80, then a turbo car boucing off the limiter run a 14.5, and then some quiet little stockish car will go and snap off an 11.something.
If this 'stang is what the OP says it is I am betting on a high 14. Windsors are exactly as good as the person who puts on the parts. Which means a smart guy can run 10s with a reasonable investment while a goombah with 87 glued on bits and a turbonator will have car that looks/sounds like it will trap 130 while it actually runs mid 14s. Pretty funny considering that often the same guys then turn around and talk about ricers.
One of the things I learned from the drag strip is that generally most of the cars there dont run as quick/fast as they ought to. You will see some thunderous V8 with a camshaft that has more lift than some cranks have stroke, and it'll run a 12.80, then a turbo car boucing off the limiter run a 14.5, and then some quiet little stockish car will go and snap off an 11.something.
If this 'stang is what the OP says it is I am betting on a high 14. Windsors are exactly as good as the person who puts on the parts. Which means a smart guy can run 10s with a reasonable investment while a goombah with 87 glued on bits and a turbonator will have car that looks/sounds like it will trap 130 while it actually runs mid 14s. Pretty funny considering that often the same guys then turn around and talk about ricers.
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01-05-2010, 11:12 PM
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aite G, I ain't bout to quote no one but what you call me Faeflora? Maine i cant believe diz, iz sum straite up bogus timez up in diz. Homie why u gotta judge me when i aint even judge you, know what im sayin? diz aint even about me and diz aint about you, diz is bout my boy runnin his mustang and a turbo on the back of his exhaust. I seen wut my boy can do already talkn bout launching? On slicks my boy hits full traction on one rev, one chirp, bounce and go, know what im sayin? 36 inch slicks, some hoisters cuz aint nun better than eatn oisters on da beach with some coronas chillin wid yo girl eatn them oisters.. oh snap i messed up i already said that. but i know how to rhyme know what im sayin? daz the life right there is what it is, juss chillin. How u go on and say things when ur mad homie, chill cuz aint nothin even goin on. U wanna talk smack about me then throw down some cash on da table and let that be the talkin know what im sayin? u can throw down the cash but i aint even gonna throw down nothing cuz my boy's stang from wicked stangs aint no joke im tellin u dat much. Its like diz, i aint gonna put down money cuz i aint wanna take yo money simple as dat. I'l go as far as repeatin myself and clappin my hands wid every syllable so u can understand what im sayin but aint need fo dat cuz everyone in here already knoes wuzup wid it. Its going down though boosted mustang vs miata turbo know what im sayin? 20 inches 20 psi daz how iz suppose to be done. High boost, 120 on da clock and yo competition on da rear view and da train bout to crash up ahead but iz all good cuz u stylin da 20s. Check it out diz my homeboy racin his supra just to show u what kind of people i roll wid. High rollers homie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbK3FCycy4Y
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time. out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbK3FCycy4Y
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time. out.
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01-05-2010, 11:24 PM
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aite G, I ain't bout to quote no one but what you call me Faeflora? Maine i cant believe diz, iz sum straite up bogus timez up in diz. Homie why u gotta judge me when i aint even judge you, know what im sayin? diz aint even about me and diz aint about you, diz is bout my boy runnin his mustang and a turbo on the back of his exhaust. I seen wut my boy can do already talkn bout launching? On slicks my boy hits full traction on one rev, one chirp, bounce and go, know what im sayin? 36 inch slicks, some hoisters cuz aint nun better than eatn oisters on da beach with some coronas chillin wid yo girl eatn them oisters.. oh snap i messed up i already said that. but i know how to rhyme know what im sayin? daz the life right there is what it is, juss chillin. How u go on and say things when ur mad homie, chill cuz aint nothin even goin on. U wanna talk smack about me then throw down some cash on da table and let that be the talkin know what im sayin? u can throw down the cash but i aint even gonna throw down nothing cuz my boy's stang from wicked stangs aint no joke im tellin u dat much. Its like diz, i aint gonna put down money cuz i aint wanna take yo money simple as dat. I'l go as far as repeatin myself and clappin my hands wid every syllable so u can understand what im sayin but aint need fo dat cuz everyone in here already knoes wuzup wid it. Its going down though boosted mustang vs miata turbo know what im sayin? 20 inches 20 psi daz how iz suppose to be done. High boost, 120 on da clock and yo competition on da rear view and da train bout to crash up ahead but iz all good cuz u stylin da 20s. Check it out diz my homeboy racin his supra just to show u what kind of people i roll wid. High rollers homie
YouTube - "Turbo" Miata vs '98 Mustang GT
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time. out.
YouTube - "Turbo" Miata vs '98 Mustang GT
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time. out.
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01-05-2010, 11:43 PM
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aite G, I ain't bout to quote no one but what you call me Faeflora? Maine i cant believe diz, iz sum straite up bogus timez up in diz. Homie why u gotta judge me when i aint even judge you, know what im sayin? diz aint even about me and diz aint about you, diz is bout my boy runnin his mustang and a turbo on the back of his exhaust. I seen wut my boy can do already talkn bout launching? On slicks my boy hits full traction on one rev, one chirp, bounce and go, know what im sayin? 36 inch slicks, some hoisters cuz aint nun better than eatn oisters on da beach with some coronas chillin wid yo girl eatn them oisters.. oh snap i messed up i already said that. but i know how to rhyme know what im sayin? daz the life right there is what it is, juss chillin. How u go on and say things when ur mad homie, chill cuz aint nothin even goin on. U wanna talk smack about me then throw down some cash on da table and let that be the talkin know what im sayin? u can throw down the cash but i aint even gonna throw down nothing cuz my boy's stang from wicked stangs aint no joke im tellin u dat much. Its like diz, i aint gonna put down money cuz i aint wanna take yo money simple as dat. I'l go as far as repeatin myself and clappin my hands wid every syllable so u can understand what im sayin but aint need fo dat cuz everyone in here already knoes wuzup wid it. Its going down though boosted mustang vs miata turbo know what im sayin? 20 inches 20 psi daz how iz suppose to be done. High boost, 120 on da clock and yo competition on da rear view and da train bout to crash up ahead but iz all good cuz u stylin da 20s. Check it out diz my homeboy racin his supra just to show u what kind of people i roll wid. High rollers homie
YouTube - "Turbo" Miata vs '98 Mustang GT
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time.out.
YouTube - "Turbo" Miata vs '98 Mustang GT
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time.out.
Alright this has to be a joke right?
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01-06-2010, 12:08 AM
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01-06-2010, 12:22 AM
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b-cuz homie dog nizzle slice monkey uz is a dirty souf talka and evr body luvs see'n u writ sum engrish coretictly.. na mean foo?? shut up and gtfo.....
Dude/"homie", you will never get respect on this board unless u take some time to properly enunciate your words, ... you ****... every post you've created has caused me to have head aches, (not to mention it makes me want to tell your mom to have swallowed) BTW how old are you? like 14 and can't pass english I in high school?
Dude/"homie", you will never get respect on this board unless u take some time to properly enunciate your words, ... you ****... every post you've created has caused me to have head aches, (not to mention it makes me want to tell your mom to have swallowed) BTW how old are you? like 14 and can't pass english I in high school?
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01-06-2010, 12:31 AM
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This thread is getting out of hand now. It sounds like that SouthPark episode where Butters had a kissing company and he went to that pimp convention. I think it went something like, "Now you got your bitches, and you got your ho's. A Ho's still a bitch, but if she's #1, then you gotta make her your bottom bitch. Do you know what I am sayin?" Then that undercover cop dressed like a prostitute came to work for Butter's and that other pimp showed up and wanted to marry the prostitute, and Butter's said "you go ahead and be happy". Then the pimp was like, "Oh Damn pimp, you done changed the game, that's what you did!!" Do you know what I am saying?
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01-06-2010, 12:45 AM
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aite G, I ain't bout to quote no one but what you call me Faeflora? Maine i cant believe diz, iz sum straite up bogus timez up in diz. Homie why u gotta judge me when i aint even judge you, know what im sayin? diz aint even about me and diz aint about you, diz is bout my boy runnin his mustang and a turbo on the back of his exhaust. I seen wut my boy can do already talkn bout launching? On slicks my boy hits full traction on one rev, one chirp, bounce and go, know what im sayin? 36 inch slicks, some hoisters cuz aint nun better than eatn oisters on da beach with some coronas chillin wid yo girl eatn them oisters.. oh snap i messed up i already said that. but i know how to rhyme know what im sayin? daz the life right there is what it is, juss chillin. How u go on and say things when ur mad homie, chill cuz aint nothin even goin on. U wanna talk smack about me then throw down some cash on da table and let that be the talkin know what im sayin? u can throw down the cash but i aint even gonna throw down nothing cuz my boy's stang from wicked stangs aint no joke im tellin u dat much. Its like diz, i aint gonna put down money cuz i aint wanna take yo money simple as dat. I'l go as far as repeatin myself and clappin my hands wid every syllable so u can understand what im sayin but aint need fo dat cuz everyone in here already knoes wuzup wid it. Its going down though boosted mustang vs miata turbo know what im sayin? 20 inches 20 psi daz how iz suppose to be done. High boost, 120 on da clock and yo competition on da rear view and da train bout to crash up ahead but iz all good cuz u stylin da 20s. Check it out diz my homeboy racin his supra just to show u what kind of people i roll wid. High rollers homie
YouTube - "Turbo" Miata vs '98 Mustang GT
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time. out.
YouTube - "Turbo" Miata vs '98 Mustang GT
faeFlora let me know when u wanna run diz stang homie. one time. out.
I'll accept your call-out my good fellow! I will meet you at the san francisco airport in my Lear 45XR. "The help" will airdrop my *** flagship onto the runway and we will have a proper gentleman's standing mile. My sad engineless Miata vs. your outstandingly american beany love chariot.
The wager shall be 3 humidors of of Don Arturo Gran AniverXario, pinks (albeit not the "pinks" colloquialism old boy). For my effort and considerable handicap, I will also expect you to ante your own 1894-S Barber Dime. Agreed?
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01-06-2010, 01:53 AM
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homie.. wait nawh u ain even my homie now know what im sayin. but everyone else is except dat other cat with the white miata runin 18 lbs thinkin hez legit wid dat low a** boost son ! Now, i dont know what kind of lucky charms star trek zordon language you just used but let me tell you this much, you havent even reached the gt30r's peak efficiency and now u wanna upgrade to gt35? homie might as well throw a flux capacitor in that and go back to the future for when its done spooling G. And i aint even hatin cuz im just being real. that turbo tells me u into drag racin and wid dat big turbo and low a** boost where u gonna go homie? Match up ur engine, turbo and peak boost of dat then come to me talking smack actin like u own da whole thing know what im sayin cuz u know what homies in my town say? all this ''no es pa nadie'' -Wisin y Yandel. and at the end of the day thats me helpin u out again Will Castro.
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