RotorNutFD3S

iTrader: (33)

Someone on m.net was apparently a tester:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=393124

He upgraded a few parts from the standard kit:



And some other information, posted on CR.net of all places:

kotomile

iTrader: (24)

Can't see the pic - does this use a two-piece rotor?

Splitime

iTrader: (24)

Yup.

thagr81 us

iTrader: (5)

Hrmmmmm.... I might have to look more into this.

hustler

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Wirelessly posted

How much are replacement rotors, do they fit with 6ul offsets, are the rotors readily available at all times?

Reverant

iTrader: (10)

Not big enough to justify replacing my big sport brakes.

bbundy

FWIW

The off the shelf wilwood kit 140-8740 made for a Mini Cooper is pretty near a direct bolt on for a Miata. A couple of washers and a hat centering ring are all that is needed.

Dyna-Pro > Dyna-Lite
11.75” > 11”
.60 thick pads > .49 thick pads
Directional Vane > Straight Vane

I have been running this kit for a number of years. I Pioneered the installation.

Id like to figure out how a setup for the rear using one of their parking brake combo calipers. Seems like the parking brake cable is oriented wrong however and they are only made for vented rotors which in my testing has shown is just unnecasary weight for the rear of even the highes powerd miata track cars.

Currently I have a custom 11.44” two peace rear rotors with stock calipers.

Bob

curly

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bbundy, it's also $1075 vs. $700 for this supposed new BBK. I'd take the dyna-lites, 11" rotors, .49" thick pads, and straight vanes to say $375. Then again I may not be finding the best price for the kit, this was directly off Wilwood's site.

leatherface24

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bah. non abs only for now

bbundy

I built mine when the only other options were Goodwin and FM who I felt wanted twice what it should cost so I got a much better kit which still cost slightly less than theirs. I was regularly destroying both pads and rotors on the corrado based wilwood setups. my new kit works better and has at least 4X the pad and rotor life.

Finally wilwood stepped up and put the kit together for what it should cost. I suspect the other players will have to lower prices or sales will die off.

I have found www.Summitracing.com usually has the best wilwood prices usually less that wilwood lists.

Bob

jayc72

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What would make this non-ABS compatible?

bbundy

For the life of me I can’t figure out how it would not work with ABS. The tone ring is on the hub I can't see how anything would interfere with the abs.

Bob

JasonC SBB

Hopefully the prices and hype are true. Isn't the free market wonderful?

RotorNutFD3S

iTrader: (33)

Seems Good-Win is following the trend for $699 (including lines) front only, looks like different hats, caliper brackets, and pads:

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...ml?id=yZeqAupi

wayne_curr

iTrader: (8)

So the wilwood and goodwin kits are pretty much the same price. The rotor hat on the wilwood kit looks better =P

I know what i'm buying this spring!

bbundy

Id recommend 2001+ sport brakes for the rear to go with it.

Oh and a 1" master cylinder on a 2001 + booster does wonders for pedal feel.

Bob

bbundy

Yes when it finally works right. I forget how long ago it was that I complained about the price. Goodwin and FM were charging nearly double what basically the same kit cost made for cars even with a smaller or much larger markets than a Miata.

Bob

wayne_curr

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Oh ya that too. I'm planning on doing more track days than autox next summer so I really want to get my brakes and cooling (oil and water) sorted out before then. I think this would be a good setup to grow into and if I outgrow it I'll sell it and go with a copy of your setup.

JasonC SBB

That's the advantage of being first on the market, such as with the 949 wheels. FM AFAIK is a reseller of the Goodwin kit so they weren't competing. I'm not saying 949 wheels are overpriced, as even when they first came out they were priced right vis a vis the not-quite-competition (15x7's).

The time it took for Wilwood to enter the market tells me that there's a lot of opportunity out there for small biz to compete (auto aftermarket, not specifically miata bbk's).

If you want to be horrified, look at the prices of E36 BMW BBK's. My car came with front BBK's which I didn't need, I downgraded to stock, and sold the ones from the car for $1700.

Gotpsi?

iTrader: (5)

Hopefully the replacement rotors will get cheaper, they are about $80-100 each right now, if they went with the 11.75 they can be had for $30ea.