xede or link for a 1.6?
#21
Have you talked to FM? My understanding is that they do not have any more 1.6 Links and there will be no more.
The keypad will get you 90% of the way there on fuel. You really need to datalog to get the other 10%, and ignition will be easier (so I'm told) with DLL. Having said that right now my car is running pretty good and I haven't even begun course tuning it yet. I'm betting that I will be able to get the car completely livable with just the keypad, but I'll be leaving power on the table.
You are correct that to connect a laptop you need software and the serial link. I find this fact somewhat annoying as well, and pushes the price of the link into ther territory of the Hydra.
Buy something already!
The keypad will get you 90% of the way there on fuel. You really need to datalog to get the other 10%, and ignition will be easier (so I'm told) with DLL. Having said that right now my car is running pretty good and I haven't even begun course tuning it yet. I'm betting that I will be able to get the car completely livable with just the keypad, but I'll be leaving power on the table.
You are correct that to connect a laptop you need software and the serial link. I find this fact somewhat annoying as well, and pushes the price of the link into ther territory of the Hydra.
Buy something already!
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Have you talked to FM? My understanding is that they do not have any more 1.6 Links and there will be no more.
The keypad will get you 90% of the way there on fuel. You really need to datalog to get the other 10%, and ignition will be easier (so I'm told) with DLL. Having said that right now my car is running pretty good and I haven't even begun course tuning it yet. I'm betting that I will be able to get the car completely livable with just the keypad, but I'll be leaving power on the table.
You are correct that to connect a laptop you need software and the serial link. I find this fact somewhat annoying as well, and pushes the price of the link into ther territory of the Hydra.
Buy something already!
The keypad will get you 90% of the way there on fuel. You really need to datalog to get the other 10%, and ignition will be easier (so I'm told) with DLL. Having said that right now my car is running pretty good and I haven't even begun course tuning it yet. I'm betting that I will be able to get the car completely livable with just the keypad, but I'll be leaving power on the table.
You are correct that to connect a laptop you need software and the serial link. I find this fact somewhat annoying as well, and pushes the price of the link into ther territory of the Hydra.
Buy something already!
I read through the xede manual last night, and it looks like a tuning nightmare to me. I don't like the idea of the ghetto piggy back where adjacent cells may be +50% in one and -50% in the next for either fuel or spark. It really looks like a clusterfuck to tune where none of the figures make sense unless you compare the to the stock ecm maps, which are probably impossible to find.
If I'm going to buy anything from Bell, it has to be this week to avoid sales tax since I'm out of town.
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also, I can't tell from the manual, but it looks like xede runs the stock ecm maps for closed loop, so I'll still have to run an o2 clamp, and who knows what that will **** up.
#29
I would count a used LINK as good possibility. I paid $600 for mine w/o a keypad. Then bought the air temp sensor ($100), the FM software chip ($125), the knock sensor motor mount boss ($20), a saab knock sensor ($15) and used plink (free) on a palm M500 ($30) to datalog and tune. The pc software Datalog Lab is free for 30 days trial ($100) and is really a necessity for a complete tuning solution. IMO $1k for a proven programmable ecu setup is a good deal.
That said, I too found an issue with my Link. The chip that runs boost control appears to be bad. Fortunately this is a cheap fix.
That said, I too found an issue with my Link. The chip that runs boost control appears to be bad. Fortunately this is a cheap fix.
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