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Old 08-15-2009, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
I think its too busy. Some of those colors just clash, OMG!

Seriously though, I don't like the mix of old and new looks, and I already hate the iPhone by itself, so this makes it twice as bad.
Seriously.. Some shitty company makes a phone for all the loser scene/emo losers who wear girls jeans and that sets the standard for everything *.wireless? ******* please.

My VERY FIRST smart phone in 2004 could do nearly everything that stupid thing can with the exception of an accelerometer. Oh, and I can write my own applications for windows mobile, have been able to from the start.

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Originally Posted by elesjuan
Seriously.. Some shitty company makes a phone for all the loser scene/emo losers who wear girls jeans and that sets the standard for everything *.wireless? ******* please.
agreed but my iphone is hacked out and i use it as a 3g receiver for my pc with out having to pay for tethering so it works. o ya and a 32gb 3gs was only $75 after rebate
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
agreed but my iphone is hacked out and i use it as a 3g receiver for my pc with out having to pay for tethering so it works. o ya and a 32gb 3gs was only $75 after rebate
z0mgwtfbbq 3g!!!!!!!

Yes, but can you tether it using BOTH the data cable AND bluetooth?

Random thought about something that REALLY ******* annoys me.. All I ever hear from AT&T is "3G" like its something that nobody has ever seen before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G
The first pre-commercial 3G network was launched by NTT DoCoMo in Japan branded FOMA, in May 2001 on a pre-release of W-CDMA technology.[7] The first commercial launch of 3G was also by NTT DoCoMo in Japan on October 1, 2001, although it was initially somewhat limited in scope;[8][9] broader availability was delayed by apparent concerns over reliability.[10] The second network to go commercially live was by SK Telecom in South Korea on the 1xEV-DO technology in January 2002. By May 2002 the second South Korean 3G network was by KTF on EV-DO and thus the Koreans were the first to see competition among 3G operators.
The first European pre-commercial network was at the Isle of Man by Manx Telecom, the operator then owned by British Telecom, and the first commercial network in Europe was opened for business by Telenor in December 2001 with no commercial handsets and thus no paying customers. These were both on the W-CDMA technology.
The first commercial United States 3G network was by Monet Mobile Networks, on CDMA2000 1x EV-DO technology, but this network provider later shut down operations. The second 3G network operator in the USA was Verizon Wireless in October 2003 also on CDMA2000 1x EV-DO, and this network has grown strongly since then.
HARDLY new technology to say the very least. My first 2000-1xrtt phone was the LG VX7000 on Verizon, which had a sticker on the rear:


"Qualcomm 3g CDMA" That is a phone I bought in 2003 IIRC.

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my sprint phone had a 3g sticker. but did it get 1+ Mbit/s download speeds?
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I still have yet to figure out the big deal with phones. If your needing to do business on the go, get a laptop. Otherwise, its just the "look what my phone can do" value. I have a regular *** old phone that makes about 1 call a day max. Maybe you people just have a lot to do on the go like big business men...?
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I'll stick with my gpsradio3mpcamera16gigmp3andvidplayerinaflipphone. Rotary dial was soo last year.

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Originally Posted by y8s
my sprint phone had a 3g sticker. but did it get 1+ Mbit/s download speeds?
with 500+ms latency times? My point is there is NOTHING Spectacular about "3g."
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"This bickering is pointless."
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
with 500+ms latency times? My point is there is NOTHING Spectacular about "3g."
the point is that it's on a cell phone and in the US. if I'm in south korea, I'll have live streaming television on my cell phone, but I dont speak korean. incidentally, those SK telecom guys came to visit my company to see about implementing some sort of personal virtual reality displays to use with their service. cracka whut?? they're coming back again in a few weeks...



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"This bickering is pointless."
very pointless, but it drives humanity
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
z0mgwtfbbq 3g!!!!!!!

Yes, but can you tether it using BOTH the data cable AND bluetooth?

Random thought about something that REALLY ******* annoys me.. All I ever hear from AT&T is "3G" like its something that nobody has ever seen before.
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i agree the iphone is way to much of a cool thing and it a peace of junk but like all tech when you unlock it and use it for what it can be used for rather then what att and apple want you to use it for, then you have something. the cydia apps are bad *** and 100x better then the crap on the app store and the **** is free. if my company didn't pay for my att service i would be on verison

on 3g
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I got the iphone because it's mobile browser is the only thing on any phone worth talking about. Everything else I've ever used is utter crap. Plus the interface itself is great compared to other options. Don't look at windows mobile and tell me that you enjoy using it and its easy to use with just your finger. Maybe with a stylus, but I dont want to carry that **** around and lose it 5x a yr.
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
I got the iphone because it's mobile browser is the only thing on any phone worth talking about. Everything else I've ever used is utter crap.
jailbrake your phone Apple & iPhone News | Forums | ModMyi.com for info

and i forgot this, i was surprised at how well the iphone took video compared to my other mobile win phones

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My **** was jailbroken before you were born!

I'm just saying why its a great phone even before you do that. I can tell you right now that its not the most popular phone in the US "just because its cool". It's because its got the most intuitive interface ever designed for a mobile devise. You can hate on apple all you want, but when jobs is calling the shots nothing but gold comes out of there.

Now for those people that start pulling the "mac owner" card. Far more people own an iphone or ipod than own actual apple pcs. So you can forget that defense and check it at the door. I personally own no other apple device other than my iphone. I'm diehard pc fan, although I love the way apple products look, and will never buy a mac over a pc product. However there is simply no phone out that has the features of an iphone that is as easy to use, and once jailbroken, has the availability of software.

Now that the 3GS is out, I'm going to be picking one up soon. It has multimedia capabilities that nearly no other phone can rival, except the pre, but who wants that... You can get a psx emulator for the 3gs that runs playstation games at 100+FPS. Its powerful enough to emulate PS2 games if someone were to write an emulator for it. Just imagine what else is going to come out for it.

ID software is going to be developing full on games for the iphone now that the 3gs is out (Doom Resurrection does not count.). Any windows mobile platforms have any exciting developments occurring?
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
You can hate on apple all you want, but when jobs is calling the shots nothing but gold comes out of there.
Yeah, pretty much every hardware product which he's come up with over the years has been a smashing commercial success that didn't in any way bankrupt whatever company he happened to be running at the time.


NeXT:



The Pixar Image Computer (intended as a medical imaging device, this was before Pixar accidentally stumbled into filmmaking- they were originally a hardware company):



Lisa (This was supposed to do what Mac finally did. The machine died slowly and painfully in a sea of cost over-runs, feature creep, and overall bad hardware design) :



The Apple III (They just didn't work, period.):



What do all those machines have in common? Jobs did the conceptual design and micromanaged the product development.


Now, I will concede that Jobs has a knack for surrounding himself with smart people, and knowing which ideas to steal/acquire and which ones to dump. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that either, it's a genuine talent. He's a great evangelist, and a forward-thinking dude. But I can't think of a single successful hardware product that he's had a hand in since the original Apple II, and the only part of that machine that he designed was the plastic case.

Mac started out as a renegade project designed to compete with Lisa, by a bunch of disgruntled developers whom Jobs had alienated.

iTunes was a pseudo-rival service that Apple bought to stay one step ahead of MS.

The GUI and mouse were both lifted from Xerox PARC.

etc.




Sidebar:

This is my phone. I paid $10 for it, new, without any rebates. It does not surf the web, take pictures, play games, stream video, tether to my PC, send tweets, or massage my prostate. It just makes and receives phone calls.


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Typing from an iPhone right now. I love it! Don't care what anyone else thinks. I didn't have a lap top, mp3 player, and my phone broke. It was a logical decision since now I have a great texting/calling device, I can listen to my own music in the car (or pandora, via the 3g Internet), and of course the mobile browsing which I use all the time. Let's not forget the map function, ny times, and facebook apps. Can your old *** 2003 phone do all that?
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@Joe - Congrats on showing you internet surfing abilities, and I'm sure you've seen Pirates of Silicon Valley the same as I.

The fact remains that products that see the light of day that come out of their doors rely on his say so, for the most part. How much of a smashing success was apple before he came back to the company?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
This is my phone. I paid $10 for it, new, without any rebates. It does not surf the web, take pictures, play games, stream video, tether to my PC, send tweets, or massage my prostate. It just makes and receives phone calls.

Jitterbug?

I paid 1 cent for my sony-ericsson phone with instant rebates. it's 3g, tethers, has downloadable java games, opera browser, google maps, GPS, has an FM radio, 3.2mp camera, accelerometer, picture messaging, email client, copy and paste, plays music and videos, youtube, and has a removable memory card.

I still like the iphone, but it's not worth its price to me.

the tethering is really nice i must say. internet anywhere on my laptop...
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my **** was jail broken when Moby Dick was a minnow.
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My problem with the phones is not the initial price (although ridiculous) its the monthly payments!
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Speaking of phones, I just got a 16gig M2 card for my tm506 for $70. I am simply amazed at the size of these things. I could probably eat one and there would be no problems going through.

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