Miatamaniac92

This explains all of the temperature increases:



Chris

browning

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looks like al gore is backing out a speach on global warning wonder whyCongress.org - : Letter to Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Virginia): Al Gore cancels lecture during COP15. -CLIMATE CHANGE A FARCE.

Braineack

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Braineack

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this video is win:

JasonC SBB

Nagase

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Is anyone else embarassed that we use coal?

We've had the technology to make power from atoms. ATOMS. We can make energy like the stars do...

And we burn old plants.

It's disgusting.

Our nuclear power plants haven't advanced in 50 years, instead we work on trying to find ways to make burning carbon not produce carbon emissions.

JasonC SBB

Government regulations are the reason we don't use more nukular.

Nagase

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Oh, I know. Regulations are also why we have a failed auto industry, a gone steel industry, and a disappearing everything else industry.

Of course, this will all be less important when hyperinflation kicks in...

JasonC SBB

Hyperinflation (money completely dies), is a lot less likely than mass inflation (15-50% per year), plus selective default (gov't reneges on some promised entitlements, such as moving SS retirement age to 80, or reducing Medicare benefits).

When money dies, so does the power of the financial elite, and they don't want that.

When the Federal Gov't checks begin to bounce, people will step away from it and rely on more local governments. A social revolution is brewing.

Nagase

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The definition I see of hyperinflation is "exceeding 100% in a three year span." That would take 26% per year...

Besides, as money becomes a worse "investment" more people will move to gold and silver... if that catches on, we just need to reach a tipping point before money goes from X inflation to useless. Doesn't take long once it begins, and it's certainly not uncommon...



If you want to look at how healthy fiat money is, look at how strong the alternitive is...

JasonC SBB

Not to nitpick, but that graph should have a logarithmic Y axis.

Nagase

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Well, I think the purpose of the graph is to show how the money goes from money to worthless in a rapid way. I think the 1:1 scale suits that purpose well.

y8s

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Indie 103.1

also itunes radio.

this thread is five pages long. 3/5 of it is nonsense.

hustler

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I've been quoting that for years.

JasonC SBB

Looks like the warmists were trying to get funding from Big Oil:

Climategate: CRU looks to “big oil” for support Watts Up With That?

y8s

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that would have been awesome.

except they probably later realized that the "certain conditions" were something like "strive to make people believe there is no consensus"

sixshooter

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A documentary I finally got around to looking up:







Another piece of one:



This is a really interesting finding:The sun moves climate change

Here's about a hundred more articles and resources that have been gathered regarding the topic. Many of them are quite good:Global Warming - The Schnitt Show

JasonC SBB

Here's a good summary of the "decline" which was "hidden", with comparisons of graphs with and without the fudging:

American Thinker: Understanding Climategate's Hidden Decline

naarleven

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Oil production is somewhere around 30,000,000 barrels a day.

If you think that a daily consumptions/production of oil near this number isn't going to hurt anything/affect then you aren't realizing exactly how much stored energy we're releasing. Billions of years of ancient biomass. Also, I don't believe the markets are as intelligent as some would assume so I do not mind some minor government correctional procedures. In fact current markets have been twisted to the point where short term gain outweighs long term stability.

In the end we'll have to go to clean sources anyways, regardless of their effect now. I think it makes sense for some long term energy planning on the part of the United States considering we've had a **** energy policy (if any) for the last 100 years. People don't consider the huge amounts of jobs and research that are going into the rising "green industry".

And I know Jason you'll just say all of our energy problems and market's being organized towards short term only are our government's fault anyways.

neogenesis2004

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Very good read