Q for dudes who work out
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Honestly gonna be different for everyone.
Normally I'm skinny as ****, so I need to eat all the time. That has really been the biggest thing for me. I usually work out on a 3 day cycle until I feel like I need a day off and then take one. My schedule usually forces me to take a week or two off every 6 months or so and I think that helps get over some plateaus.
You can do supplements if you want. The most common are probably pre workout **** like N.O.Xplode, Jack3d, Superpump; protein like Syntha 6, Gold Standard, Truemass; and creatine like Cellmass and others.
That may speed up the initial gains, but they aren't really necessary if you plan to do this long term. Well protein always helps if you just can't fit in enough food time during the day.
Normally I'm skinny as ****, so I need to eat all the time. That has really been the biggest thing for me. I usually work out on a 3 day cycle until I feel like I need a day off and then take one. My schedule usually forces me to take a week or two off every 6 months or so and I think that helps get over some plateaus.
You can do supplements if you want. The most common are probably pre workout **** like N.O.Xplode, Jack3d, Superpump; protein like Syntha 6, Gold Standard, Truemass; and creatine like Cellmass and others.
That may speed up the initial gains, but they aren't really necessary if you plan to do this long term. Well protein always helps if you just can't fit in enough food time during the day.
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Yea... I'm the one that is hurting myself.
I'm not saying they are 100% safe, you just need to cycle off properly and take the correct precautions. If you are healthy and smart you will be fine.
#6
Are you trying to look ripped or gain strength? If you are trying to get healthier & gain strength:
Arms: I'm doing Recon Ron's Pull-up Program. (On week 4) Also, max sets helped me, maybe even more then the pull-up program does.
Abs: Do crunches, sit-ups are too easy on you. I started out doing less then 40 in two minutes, now I have no problem doing 65 in the same time, my brother who has focused on crunches more then I can do 110 in two minutes. It's hard at first but much easier after a week or two.
Chest: Do push-ups. Just do max sets and you'll make progress.
Stamina/Running: Find a trail, get some good running shoes (not necessarily expensive) Nikes suck for running, you'll get shin splints, get some Asics instead. Then, find a public park with a trail and start running a mile or so, then build on that. Treadmills are for little girls, I prefer using the bike-thingie if I can't run outside.
Remember to push yourself. Pain is good, extreme pain is extremely good.
Arms: I'm doing Recon Ron's Pull-up Program. (On week 4) Also, max sets helped me, maybe even more then the pull-up program does.
Abs: Do crunches, sit-ups are too easy on you. I started out doing less then 40 in two minutes, now I have no problem doing 65 in the same time, my brother who has focused on crunches more then I can do 110 in two minutes. It's hard at first but much easier after a week or two.
Chest: Do push-ups. Just do max sets and you'll make progress.
Stamina/Running: Find a trail, get some good running shoes (not necessarily expensive) Nikes suck for running, you'll get shin splints, get some Asics instead. Then, find a public park with a trail and start running a mile or so, then build on that. Treadmills are for little girls, I prefer using the bike-thingie if I can't run outside.
Remember to push yourself. Pain is good, extreme pain is extremely good.
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The number one thing you can do to put on muscle is to get crushed every single time you go to the gym, walk in to do business and think about nothing other than yourself. If you don't hit Olympic lifts so hard that you have to lie in the floor for a while, you aren't lifting hard enough. Make noise, grunt, lift the ******* iron...they're either looking at you with envy or they're wondering if you're going to bend another bar. I'm going to dead 400+ by the end of the year, pulling that much iron requires some noise.
Don't be a huge ****** bodybuilder. Sure, we all want to look good, but don't waste your time doing more than 4-different isolations on each muscle group, rotate them in and out. I see these ******s who go to the gym and do BB bench, DB bench, DB incline, DB decline, flies, incline flies, pull-overs, and pushups..stop wasting your time and do yourself a favor by picking 5 lifts and lifting like a man instead of watching yourself in the mirror, praying that a vein pops this year. My chest day is BB bench on 5-rm iron, then 4 isolations that I rotate every 4th week: DB bench/flies, decline BB or DB, pullovers, then BB skull crushers push-downs, isolation dips, dip-box. I work one bicep isolation on back day, and wrist-roll forearms on leg day...and leg day is all isolations for me because I hit my compounds throughout the week. I tread bench, deads, squats, power-clean, and clean & jerk as if I'm a serious power-lifter and I'll spend the first 30-minutes of my day on that compound lift to build strength and feel manly.
Also:
Sorry I typed so much. I've recently hit the gym again and I'm loving it.
Don't be a huge ****** bodybuilder. Sure, we all want to look good, but don't waste your time doing more than 4-different isolations on each muscle group, rotate them in and out. I see these ******s who go to the gym and do BB bench, DB bench, DB incline, DB decline, flies, incline flies, pull-overs, and pushups..stop wasting your time and do yourself a favor by picking 5 lifts and lifting like a man instead of watching yourself in the mirror, praying that a vein pops this year. My chest day is BB bench on 5-rm iron, then 4 isolations that I rotate every 4th week: DB bench/flies, decline BB or DB, pullovers, then BB skull crushers push-downs, isolation dips, dip-box. I work one bicep isolation on back day, and wrist-roll forearms on leg day...and leg day is all isolations for me because I hit my compounds throughout the week. I tread bench, deads, squats, power-clean, and clean & jerk as if I'm a serious power-lifter and I'll spend the first 30-minutes of my day on that compound lift to build strength and feel manly.
Also:
- I had really good results with Christian Thibideau's 5x5
- If you aren't taking in enough clean calories post-lift that you have diarrhea after dinner, you're not eating enough and I'm not joking
- No more than 8-reps
- Keep a log, keep a log, keep a log you lazy bastard. The Log will make you lift more weight. The log helped me a lot lately.
- Listen to metal
- If you don't scare people, you're not "there" yet
- Reverse hypers, good mornings, rotator articulations...these lifts will help you eliminate injury
- Write down your limiting factors, target them, and add some iron
- Active Release Technique when you get hurt
- Get a foam roller and PM me for a list of special shoulder stretches that I'll scan later
- Tri's for guys, curls for girls
- Follow Dave Tate's training log
Sorry I typed so much. I've recently hit the gym again and I'm loving it.
#9
I'm a bit out of shape right now. Fricking grad school. Let me begin by saying I was never ripped.
After college I was running 6:45 miles, and lean and mean. 5' 10" and 154lbs. Now i'm up to 161lbs. I'm pretty sure that is hurting my Kart times lol. I was also lifting a few times a week for Rugby. I did very few exercices but it gave me some results. Benchpress, lat pull down, free weight butterflies(correct name?I know its chest number two but I needed for the position I played), free weight curls. I did not lift to gain mass though as I hated bulk as feel that it slowed me down and made me sluggish.
Running 5x a week with two days off worked for me (m-thursday, friday cheat day, sat long run, sunday relax).
I have a slow metabolism. A big thing that helped me was eating small portions but like 4 times a day. Breakfast, (fruit), Lunch, (fruit), dinner.
I'm trying to get back to into my old routine as now when I have to much work work and school work the easiest thing to do is just say forget it. I have about 11 months till I get married to get back where I was.
off topic: I know the 100+ degree weather affects you running times a lot but I feel pitiful running a 24 minute time for a 3.1 mile run today. I was doing 21:21 when I was on top of my game.
After college I was running 6:45 miles, and lean and mean. 5' 10" and 154lbs. Now i'm up to 161lbs. I'm pretty sure that is hurting my Kart times lol. I was also lifting a few times a week for Rugby. I did very few exercices but it gave me some results. Benchpress, lat pull down, free weight butterflies(correct name?I know its chest number two but I needed for the position I played), free weight curls. I did not lift to gain mass though as I hated bulk as feel that it slowed me down and made me sluggish.
Running 5x a week with two days off worked for me (m-thursday, friday cheat day, sat long run, sunday relax).
I have a slow metabolism. A big thing that helped me was eating small portions but like 4 times a day. Breakfast, (fruit), Lunch, (fruit), dinner.
I'm trying to get back to into my old routine as now when I have to much work work and school work the easiest thing to do is just say forget it. I have about 11 months till I get married to get back where I was.
off topic: I know the 100+ degree weather affects you running times a lot but I feel pitiful running a 24 minute time for a 3.1 mile run today. I was doing 21:21 when I was on top of my game.
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Eat a shitload of protein. No junky carbs at all. Have fun with stuffing ur face with green vegguies.
At the same time do crossfit.
Last of all, you have to suffer to get lean or put on muscle. If it was super pkeasureable everyone would be like that. The more you arr suffering, the faster and better your results will be.
To make itpermanemt will require a lifestyle change.
Again, the most important thing is suffering, either at the gym or at the table. Best results suffering both places.
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I still subscribe to the Schwarzenegger work-out. Hit 8-rep sets on the light **** to get the body moving, then make it count on the last two. The last rep of the last set is the only rep that counts.
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bb bench:
set 1 8 reps @ 85 lbs
set 2 8 reps @ 85 lbs
set 3 6 reps @ 85 lbs + 2 reps @ 180 lbs
or do you mean
set 1 8 reps @ 85 lbs
set 2 8 reps @ 180 lbs
set 3 8 reps @ 180 lbs
#15
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I think he means the second example.
I actually do opposite, kind of.
Set 1 - 6 reps - 245
Set 2 - 8 reps - 225
Set 3 - 10 reps - 205
Although I stretch out properly prior to my first set. I just like to do my most highest weight while I'm the freshest. Honestly it's worked out well for me.
I actually do opposite, kind of.
Set 1 - 6 reps - 245
Set 2 - 8 reps - 225
Set 3 - 10 reps - 205
Although I stretch out properly prior to my first set. I just like to do my most highest weight while I'm the freshest. Honestly it's worked out well for me.
#16
Also.
Keep in mind "what" works does not work for everyone. You have to learn your body. The consume a lot of protein etc. never worked for me. I was also in taking a "normal" persons caloric intake when I hardcore in college. My metabolism is slow enough that it was more than enough to fuel me.
E.G. It takes me about 1 1/2 hours to digest a granola bar before I can go run so I dont barf.
Keep in mind "what" works does not work for everyone. You have to learn your body. The consume a lot of protein etc. never worked for me. I was also in taking a "normal" persons caloric intake when I hardcore in college. My metabolism is slow enough that it was more than enough to fuel me.
E.G. It takes me about 1 1/2 hours to digest a granola bar before I can go run so I dont barf.
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I think he means the second example.
I actually do opposite, kind of.
Set 1 - 6 reps - 245
Set 2 - 8 reps - 225
Set 3 - 10 reps - 205
Although I stretch out properly prior to my first set. I just like to do my most highest weight while I'm the freshest. Honestly it's worked out well for me.
I actually do opposite, kind of.
Set 1 - 6 reps - 245
Set 2 - 8 reps - 225
Set 3 - 10 reps - 205
Although I stretch out properly prior to my first set. I just like to do my most highest weight while I'm the freshest. Honestly it's worked out well for me.
You don't really "lift the highest weight while I'm the freshest." Get your body moving, start putting up some weight, and make the 4th-6th sets count.
Also.
Keep in mind "what" works does not work for everyone. You have to learn your body. The consume a lot of protein etc. never worked for me. I was also in taking a "normal" persons caloric intake when I hardcore in college. My metabolism is slow enough that it was more than enough to fuel me.
E.G. It takes me about 1 1/2 hours to digest a granola bar before I can go run so I dont barf.
Keep in mind "what" works does not work for everyone. You have to learn your body. The consume a lot of protein etc. never worked for me. I was also in taking a "normal" persons caloric intake when I hardcore in college. My metabolism is slow enough that it was more than enough to fuel me.
E.G. It takes me about 1 1/2 hours to digest a granola bar before I can go run so I dont barf.