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Old 02-25-2016, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Girz0r
I was confused when he told me mitsubishi but meh it works, installed.
Mazda bought a lot of the electrical system on the Miata from Mitsubishi. If you look around under the hood, you'll see their name on various sensors and components. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were the OEM supplier for the starter.
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Originally Posted by Girz0r
Not sure if the part# is exact, just what I was told by the service advisor. Looks the same.
Humm. For $125 I might order it and see whats up. Occasionally when I turn the key to crank the motor, there is a 0.5~0.75 second pause before the starter actually decides to start doing something. I'm thinking its getting tired so probably a safe bet to replace it before I get stuck somewhere.

It would be nice to have the one with the correct bolt pattern for the 6 speed, because I'm crazy like that.
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I was under the impression its the same for 5 and 6 spd.

My main issue was the starter itself. I haven't looked it up, but it engages and pushes out towards the flywheel to catch then crank?

My old one last night would just clink* and not even attempt to crank.

Service advisor kept telling me it was my 17* timing (begi reflash) that was preventing the start. My logic and exp. told me otherwise.... wasn't even attempting to crank. No engagement period.

The issue of 2 cranks, pause, full crank is still there. Guessing what I was told of the odd flywheel position tis true. I have the fm 10lb flywheel.
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Adam (Revlimiter) is unable to meet with the the seller due to scheduling conflicts. I need this trunk lid for the '68 GTO (one year only). Seller isn't interested in bringing it 10 miles to meet Adam and Adam can only get there on weekends in a vehicle big enough to carry it, etc. I am thankful for the help. We have not got a solution yet.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Adam (Revlimiter) is unable to meet with the the seller due to scheduling conflicts. I need this trunk lid for the '68 GTO (one year only). Seller isn't interested in bringing it 10 miles to meet Adam and Adam can only get there on weekends in a vehicle big enough to carry it, etc. I am thankful for the help. We have not got a solution yet.
Have you offered him more money to deliver it?
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Have you offered him more money to deliver it?
I have not. I did offer Adam money to go get it but Adam only has 2 Miatas during the week and has to borrow his wife's car on the weekend. Adam has never bought anything on craigslist and has offered to meet the guy 10 miles from his house at a police station because he's skittish. The seller thought that was more effort than he was interested in putting into it for whatever reason. 10 miles is a big deal for some people, especially when they've been stood up before. Craigslist sucks for that.
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I've found that extra money and deposits can help along Craigslist sales very well. If you really want it and are willing to spend more money for it I would offer that.
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I didn't think there was such a thing as a "6-speed starter". I thought it was only "NA Starter" and "NB Starter", with the NB Starter being significantly smaller/lighter. I believe the "bolt pattern" may have been related to the trans plate more than the starter itself. Also the lighter weight allowed mazda to forego using an additional support bolt.
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Originally Posted by fooger03
I didn't think there was such a thing as a "6-speed starter".
There isn't. The 2004 Mazda parts guide lists a single starter (BPD4-18-400R-00) for all Miatas, regardless of which transmission they had, including the MSM.

And yes, the NB starter is a bit smaller and has one less bolt. (One fewer bolt? One fewer bolts? Whatever.) Despite this, the starters are known to interchange between NA and NB.
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Frickin' Samsung nearly ruined my entire day. Mobile device manufacturers that advertise themselves as making "business friendly" devices should not be sending mandatory OTA OS updates.
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
Frickin' Samsung nearly ruined my entire day. Mobile device manufacturers that advertise themselves as making "business friendly" devices should not be sending mandatory OTA OS updates.
What did they change that messes with your corporate settings?
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Yeah, I've been using the Galaxy series for the past three years. Had a 4 for the first two years, got a 6 a few months ago. Amazingly good computers (which also double as reasonably good phones), but the forced updates are annoying. I don't recall that any corporate connectivity has been broken by one, though.
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Originally Posted by shuiend
What did they change that messes with your corporate settings?
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Yeah, I've been using the Galaxy series for the past three years. Had a 4 for the first two years, got a 6 a few months ago. Amazingly good computers (which also double as reasonably good phones), but the forced updates are annoying. I don't recall that any corporate connectivity has been broken by one, though.
The Lollipop update for the Tab S 10.5 and Tab S 8.4 tablets breaks the "Which app would you like to use" dialogue when the tablets are being used in Kiosk mode (as enforced by MobileIron MDM).

Our staff requires the use of two different apps for handling PDFs, so they are instructed to never set a default app, and instead to always use the dialogue prompt to select the app they want ("just this once"). That way they always have the choice.

After the Lollipop update, for some reason this dialogue prompt would not work inside the Kiosk mode. We never figured out why, Samsung never figured out why, and MobileIron never figured out why.

We can stop all OTA updates with MobileIron, but I was working on a tablet between active MobileIron enrollments. With no warning, the tablet jumped to a full screen notification that an OTA update was available and would begin installing in 30 seconds. No "Cancel" or "Wait till later" options.

I shut the tablet off and powered it up in recovery mode, then cleared the cache partition to remove the OTA update file. Rebooted, then cut WiFi off as fast as I could so it wouldn't re-download the update.

Turned out fine, but it's stupid that I had to finagle my way out of an OS update that would have broken functionality we rely on.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
There isn't. The 2004 Mazda parts guide lists a single starter (BPD4-18-400R-00) for all Miatas, regardless of which transmission they had, including the MSM.

And yes, the NB starter is a bit smaller and has one less bolt. (One fewer bolt? One fewer bolts? Whatever.) Despite this, the starters are known to interchange between NA and NB.
I thought the 6 speed starters had the extra bolt, and the NA/NB 5 speeds were the same bolt pattern?

I know they interchange so its no big deal. Derp.
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I was handed a "defective" beer last night..... of which I spilled all over myself.

It was very defective.

Moral of the story.... Don't hold 2 beers at once and try to drink both.

Also, I managed to jam or break my left thumb... it's purple and looks like a balloon. And burn my right arm from cooking food.

I'm a handful
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I see now the dental chair foot switch locks in the up position to bring the chair automatically to the highest sitting up position. Switch does not flip back to "off position" once in the highest upright position. Motor does of course stop uprighting the chair once in highest postion.



Foot control switch: on off (on)
Desired hand control switch: (on) off (on)

Joe designed me a clever way with a M2046SS1W01 so they wouldn't short if both controls were pushed in opposite directions.

Is there a way to keep the foot switch as is "on off (on)" but make hand controls "(on) off (on)" with Joe's protection circuit? I assume some relay would be in order?

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I marked up your schematic, based on the assumption that we're using an NKK model M2046 switch: M2046SS1W01 NKK Switches | Switches | DigiKey

Cut the supply wire between the fuse and the existing switch as shown:





And then wire in the new switch as shown:





In this design, power must flow through the new switch (from point A to point B) in order to reach the existing switch, and it can do so only when the new switch is in the center position. Thus, the two switches cannot both be closed at the same time.
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The circuit I gave you will not change the operation of the foot switch. When the additional switch is in the center position, the footswitch will continue to operate as before.

If you leave the footswitch in the "up" position until the chair reaches full lock, and then use the hand switch to move it down, it will run up again until it stops after you release the hand switch. Nothing can be done about that, given the mechanically-latching nature of the footswitch which you describe.
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Joe, after giving it some thought after writing my post I also came to the same conclusion . Thanks for confirming.

Is there a switch readily available like those in power windows that once flipped window automatically goes all the way down and flip back to off position once down?

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The circuit I gave you will not change the operation of the foot switch. When the additional switch is in the center position, the footswitch will continue to operate as before.

If you leave the footswitch in the "up" position until the chair reaches full lock, and then use the hand switch to move it down, it will run up again until it stops after you release the hand switch. Nothing can be done about that, given the mechanically-latching nature of the footswitch which you describe.

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Originally Posted by kenzo42
Is there a switch readily available like those in power windows that once flipped window automatically goes all the way down and flip back to off position once down?
I'll note here that my knowledge of power window systems is not comprehensive.

That said, I've never seen one in which the switch that you press to activate auto-up or auto-down mechanically latches into that position. On the few I've seen, moving the switch to "auto" merely engages an electric circuit which closes a relay and holds it closed until it detects that the window has reached full lock, either by the use of limit switches or by monitoring motor current and looking for a spike (the current draw of a DC motor increases when it stalls.)


From your description, it seems like the chair already has limit switches on the motor, and I'm sure something like this could be implemented, but it's a more complex design than I'd want to propose without being able to lay hands on the chair in person, especially given the application.


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You describe there being a footswitch, and yet the image you posted seems to illustrate a hand-operated toggle:



Do dentists have abnormally dexterous toes?
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