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Old 10-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #14461
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too bad, you probably could have sold it to one of the many nerds who have taken over this thread with their nerd bullshit
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:06 PM   #14464
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no **** pusha, I wish I had thought of that. They would probably die if they saw what I just sent to the recyclers at work last week.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:09 PM   #14465
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bro I kept all the old pc stuff I used to smash behind my mom's office, I'd have a gold tooth
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:30 PM   #14466
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Yeah, I don't trust QuickFormat when it comes to a 15 year old disk that I'm about to store critical data on.
trash can for 15 year old disk and a trip to Fry's is the correct method for preparing media for critical data storge.

how about a nondegradeable punch card?
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:34 PM   #14467
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hahaha..
we use quick format.. haven't had an issue really. Then again, we aren't using 12 year old disks.

But not gonna lie, it's pretty awesome being a combat nerd. Go hit the ****, jump outta planes, helos, etc... and still bust out a toughbook that can function errwurr. I'll even bust out the SHARK and get on FB for the giggles while the other PJs, CCTs and SERE guys just meander in their roshambo, and ******* thai hooker stories to pass time.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:08 PM   #14468
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trash can for 15 year old disk and a trip to Fry's is the correct method for preparing media for critical data storge.
Laziness > good engineering practice.

To be fair, I only needed the data to last long enough to transfer it from the Agilent logic analyzer to the one PC in the office that still has a floppy drive. (It runs DOS 6.22)

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how about a nondegradeable punch card?
Did anybody ever make those?

The only cards I still have lying around are of the traditional heavy paper variety. They have held up surprisingly well to the ravages of time. A hell of a lot better than most of the magnetic tape and disks of the same era.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:13 PM   #14469
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jesus christ, what in the hell is your job man?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:15 PM   #14470
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Who, me?

I fix things.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:18 PM   #14471
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What are you? Like, IT helpdesk or like geek squad?

Or just a general handyman... your profession intrigues me as per the tools you have at your disposal.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:25 PM   #14472
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Haha.

I work in the broadcast industry, mostly doing audio mixing consoles and routers for radio stations with a company called Harris. A lot of the equipment that we deal with is pretty ancient, or at least relies upon, shall we say, "mature" technologies. As an example, one of the consoles that we are still manufacturing to this day used a '486 processor (specifically an AMD Elan) as its controller and network interface until last year when the part was finally discontinued. (We switched to an Atmel ARM9 processor.) In fact, there are still a lot of analog mixing consoles, transmitters, tape machines, etc from the 70s and 80s in use today, though they are becoming less common. From time to time, we still encounter tubes.

The DOS PC is there because the 16MB (yes, MB) disk-on-chip (aka SSD) which the aforementioned '486 controller used requires the use of an expansion card for which Windows drivers were never written in order to debug / diagnose.

The rest of the crap (8" floppies, paper tape, punch cards) are just personal artifacts borne of a fondness for obsolete technology.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:26 PM   #14473
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Not to worry. Silicon stops working on 12/21/12
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Not to worry. Silicon stops working on 12/21/12
Well, the few '60s vintage Gates/Harris FMG-series transmitters which are still in use (along with their original exciters) will still be functioning. Not a semiconductor in the damn things- nothing but tubes and relays.

Of course, there will be no electricity to power them...
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:25 AM   #14475
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That floppy will go great with my TRS-80



and dot matrix printer

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Suckaz. I use a dot matrix printer erryday.*







*Holy ****, why am I writing like pusha? Someone help me.
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Suckaz. I use a dot matrix printer erryday.*







*Holy ****, why am I writing like pusha? Someone help me.
I'll help you :-)
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:44 PM   #14478
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That floppy will go great with my TRS-80
Kids today...

That TRS-80 is onna dem fancy, new-fangled Model 4s, what's got da 5.25" disk drives and da fancy 2 megeehertz processor. Y'alls needa Model II ta read a MAN'S disk:





Or a Tandy-10:





Or something properly old-school, like an IMSAI-8080, for which the disk drive was a rather costly external option:




Keyboard? We don't need no stinking keyboard!
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bitches don't know bout my eniac
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Sidebar:

Remember the Altair? The "original" PC? It is not commonly known, but an actual hard drive was available as an official MITS accessory, albeit in extremely limited quantities and at a price which was not affordable to most users.

It was called the DataKeeper, released just after the aquisition of MITS by Pertec in 1977. This unit held 10 megabytes on a single 14 inch platter, and was housed in a box roughly the same size as the Altair itself, using a drive of the sort commonly paired in clusters with large minicomputers. Power consumption: 1,100 watts startup, 400 watts average.

Here it is mounted in an Altair 300/55 "Business System" of roughly 1978 vintage:



The disk drive itself is at the top, below it is the disk controller, and at the bottom is the actual Altair CPU. This unit is the late-model Altair 8800bt, which eliminated the switches-and-lights front panel and instead included a terminal interface and a ROM which allowed the machine to boot itself automatically from a disk (this was considered pretty cutting-edge at the time.)

Systems such as the one above were typically sold as complete turnkey packages (you didn't have to assemble it yourself with a soldering iron) and were pre-loaded with software such as Peachtree Accounting and a non-Microsoft implementation of multiuser BASIC.


You can read an article about the DataKeeper in this issue of Computer Notes from Nov '77: http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32/pdf/cn1177.pdf
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