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Old 03-11-2016, 12:36 PM
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Restating my question in case someone knows the answer. Can I use a mountain 11s freehub with a road cassette? If not, can I use a mountain cassette with a road RD? This may be a little of a Frankenstein setup but someone must have done something similar before.

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Tech question: DT350 mountain hub, 12x142 thru-axle, 10s Shimano freehub. Want to convert to 11s Shimano road freehub.

I'm finding plenty of 11s road freehubs (with the QR end cap I don't need): DT Swiss 240 Freehub Body Shimano Road 11 Speed

Use 11s road freehub kit linked and just throw away the QR end cap or is there more to it than that with the thru-axle?
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mtb 11s freehub is the same as a 10speed freehub. so you can use a 10 speed road or 10/11s mtb cassette on it.
if your hub now is a 10 speed road/mtb and you want to put on an 11speed mtb cassette, you aren't going to need a new freehub at all. it will just slide on. The mtb cassette puts the large 40/42t cog inside what the normal 34/36t cog would have been on a 10speed system. its dished and since the 40/42t cog is so big it doesn't have an issue with spoke interference.


to be able to use a road 11s cassette you need a road 11 freehub. with a road 11s freehub you can also use a mtb 11s cassette, but you will need a spacer on the spoke side of the freehub to take the slack up.



I am going to be using a Di2 Ultegra LONG cage derailleur on a mtb 11-40 cassette... but you need to get a wolf tooth roadlink and make sure your system is within their operating range.
To get a road cassette on your DT350, check DT's website. Iirc you need to get the cassette with the proper endcaps.
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To get 11s road, you will need:
DT PN for 142x12 with 11s road in addition to the freehub itself I believe.
R-03525S

call someone that does DT parts though, they might have an option for you. if you haven't already pulled the freehub body and end caps... its super easy you just pull them off. don't pay someone to do this for you.
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Thanks a bunch shlammed, I called WheelBuilder and they said the same, as long as it's not a straight-pull I use the 11s road freehub and the linked end caps.
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Stopped by the LBS today and picked up a new rockhopper. Night and day difference from my Fuji, in a good way. Still might throw road tires on the Fuji for family rides. Also got a comfort bike for the wife, I'm more excited about getting her to ride really.
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Originally Posted by Stealth97
Stopped by the LBS today and picked up a new rockhopper. Night and day difference from my Fuji, in a good way. Still might throw road tires on the Fuji for family rides. Also got a comfort bike for the wife, I'm more excited about getting her to ride really.
Try one of these bikes with the wife.

They are great because your always going the same pace and you can chat.



We enjoy it together... but when riding with my wife both of us on our own bikes, she hated it.
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But baller tandems are $$. We can't all weld our own frame. How's balancing on that when your woman moves around?

I was an idiot yesterday and was late to the start of the race. Long story short (lined up 5 min before race, realized HRM in the car so I went back to get it), when i got to the start my garmin said it was 7:58 but my 8:00 race was so far ahead I could barely see them. So I practiced my solo TT game haha. I ended catching the 2nd to last guy @ 12 miles just as he turned off to go back to his car. So I relaxed a little and let the earlier run group (35+) pass me. Waited for the following scooter/marshal and asked if I could join that group for practice. Was able to sprint to catch up pretty easily and join in the draft.

HOLY ****. I actually 'lol'ed. I go from max effort at 20mph to sitting up minimal effort at 26-28mph, being sucked along by this mysterious force. That sh&ts amazing. So I hung towards the back half dozen of that pack for 6 miles until a wreck took out some of the front guys. I went onto the shoulder and got stuck in the sand, and fell over cause I'm still a newb at panic shoe releases. Since I was a lap down and my drivetrain was covered in sand, I helped clean up the pieces. As soon as I got home I signed up for this weekends race.

Road racers are super serious. "hey man what's up" kept getting me a death stare.
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I could never ride tandem with my wife. For her, it's her bike or no bike. We will be riding with our 4 year old a lot too, and don't want him to feel excluded. He's a little trooper, he's already hitting the local mountain bike trails on his little lighting McQueen bike. He can sometimes do a couple miles on flat land before he is ready for a nap.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
How's balancing on that when your woman moves around?
She probably doesn't slam her weight from side to side like my 5 (now 6) y/o likes to do, lol.


(watch how she tries to knock us over just before the bridge)
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
But baller tandems are $$. We can't all weld our own frame. How's balancing on that when your woman moves around?
They can be $, no doubt.

You can definitely weld your own frame. Others may or may not be able to... but they could with practice.

Balancing isn't bad. Depends on the rider. My wife is good about it. she just pedals and looks around.

People who lean when they pedal are annoying to ride with.

The design of the tandem makes the most difference for stoker steer though... some tandems can basically lane change just from them leaning... ours wont do that much, which is great.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
But baller tandems are $$. We can't all weld our own frame. How's balancing on that when your woman moves around?

I was an idiot yesterday and was late to the start of the race. Long story short (lined up 5 min before race, realized HRM in the car so I went back to get it), when i got to the start my garmin said it was 7:58 but my 8:00 race was so far ahead I could barely see them. So I practiced my solo TT game haha. I ended catching the 2nd to last guy @ 12 miles just as he turned off to go back to his car. So I relaxed a little and let the earlier run group (35+) pass me. Waited for the following scooter/marshal and asked if I could join that group for practice. Was able to sprint to catch up pretty easily and join in the draft.

HOLY ****. I actually 'lol'ed. I go from max effort at 20mph to sitting up minimal effort at 26-28mph, being sucked along by this mysterious force. That sh&ts amazing. So I hung towards the back half dozen of that pack for 6 miles until a wreck took out some of the front guys. I went onto the shoulder and got stuck in the sand, and fell over cause I'm still a newb at panic shoe releases. Since I was a lap down and my drivetrain was covered in sand, I helped clean up the pieces. As soon as I got home I signed up for this weekends race.

Road racers are super serious. "hey man what's up" kept getting me a death stare.
Congrats on finishing your first race with only a minor crash and no injuries. Seriously though, you must do some fast club rides before your next race. This is not optional.

Roadie seriousness is a byproduct of how much work goes into being able to ride near the front, how much personal sacrifice one makes and simply how much it hurts. It's easy to laugh after the fact but during a race when the pack is hauling ***, is not the time for casual conversation. That just tells the other rider that you're either using so little energy that you are a sandbagger or you have no idea how important it is to simply stay focused.

I might wise crack and chat a bit when the pace eases off but it's all business when the pace picks up. Of all endeavors in bicycle racing. road racing demands the highest overall fitness. Eyeball bleeding tempo for 4hrs with several VO2 max attack/bridging intervals followed by a literally blinding sprint. If you don't get a bit of tunnel vision (blood loss from brain) and get faint when crossing the line in a sprint, you didn't go hard enough.
So yah, it can be kinda serious.
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I guess I wasn't specific, I was only trying to chat when warming up before the race. Most people were riding back and forth along the roadway where everyone parked. Maybe they were trying to get in the zone. Hell, even the woman handing out the number tags was coldasice. But then again, the guy on the scooter was pretty cool and though it funny I was late (which it was). I wouldn't disrespect someone by commenting on the weather during the actual race.

From what I can gather from strava segments, it looks like the cat4/5 was ~2mph avg faster race than the 35+, and the last mile or two was much faster. Still waiting to see what info gets posted on USACycling.

And guys with flashing LED tail lights...that should be outlawed in a road race.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
But baller tandems are $$. We can't all weld our own frame. How's balancing on that when your woman moves around?

I was an idiot yesterday and was late to the start of the race. Long story short (lined up 5 min before race, realized HRM in the car so I went back to get it), when i got to the start my garmin said it was 7:58 but my 8:00 race was so far ahead I could barely see them. So I practiced my solo TT game haha. I ended catching the 2nd to last guy @ 12 miles just as he turned off to go back to his car. So I relaxed a little and let the earlier run group (35+) pass me. Waited for the following scooter/marshal and asked if I could join that group for practice. Was able to sprint to catch up pretty easily and join in the draft.

HOLY ****. I actually 'lol'ed. I go from max effort at 20mph to sitting up minimal effort at 26-28mph, being sucked along by this mysterious force. That sh&ts amazing. So I hung towards the back half dozen of that pack for 6 miles until a wreck took out some of the front guys. I went onto the shoulder and got stuck in the sand, and fell over cause I'm still a newb at panic shoe releases. Since I was a lap down and my drivetrain was covered in sand, I helped clean up the pieces. As soon as I got home I signed up for this weekends race.

Road racers are super serious. "hey man what's up" kept getting me a death stare.
Nice, now do group-rides all week.

I constantly run my mouth in road races, ask people how many they have in the break, ask for a spare blood bag at the hotel, etc. There is a balance between annoying the **** out of people, creating an alliance, and people realizing you've run your mouth for two hours and not tired.
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I do many Zwift group rides all week. I notice I'm also one of the rare few who use the voice callouts on that. I'm annoying. Protip: F6 is "bring it!". I've only heard it coming from me.

Joking aside, thanks guys for the help. I will do group rides with the LBS when they start April.
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Regarding the group rides, at first just focus on learning the ebb and flow so you can ride a straight line, not be dabbing brakes all the time and never be surprised by simple things. Once you get comfortable being in the group and are riding smoothly spend some time at the front. Rider on the front has a huge responsibility for leading the group safely for however long that might be, be it a 2s pull at 35+ or 15 minutes of tempo. Even when not on the front, you should point out and debris or bad pavement that could cause a crash or flat. Do so by point a finger down the side with the problem before you get to it. If it's junk everywhere, simply call it out with one word "trash" "grave; "rocks" "glass", instead of taking hand off bars. If it's something high up like a kerb, road sign, car then a hand up high towards obstruction. When changing roads with a group that might not know the route (or see the turn), it's OK to call out the direction of turn or signal it. I don't do this on club rides as most know the route but will do so in special events where the route might be new.
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Deez muthafukin rimz be STRAYT!

(To within about 0.075", which I am certain will be annhilated on the first ride tomorrow, but with which I am nonetheless impressed with myself given how flimsy these things are.)


I hate truing rims... Possibly the most tedious task ever undertaken by man, and I was one of those kids who keyed page after page of raw hexadecimal machine-language code into a C-64 out of Compute's Gazette magazine pages back in the 80s.
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