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Old 06-01-2016, 04:10 PM   #3901
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Now I feel dumb realizing 18psi just posted a similar bike and questions just a few posts ago. But still curious if you guys think the price is decent.

I'm starting to get back into road biking and I'm looking for a "new" poverty road bike. What do you guys think about this cannondale synapse? The bike will primarily be used for commuting(about 20 miles round trip) and grocery getting, but i would like to be able to go out and do 30-50 mile rides on the weekends as a decent pace. I'll probably upgrade to 105 components one at a time but what order should I upgrade in? shifters then derailuers then brakes?
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Or just skip straight to the cross bike and get a spare wheelset for the other discipline. With a decent enough cross bike you can accomplish everything you want to as an amateur road rider AND ride all but the most hardcore MTB trails. Not to mention, keeping up with the peloton on-road or the FS MTBs off-road while you're on a cross bike gets you kudos from the other riders. If you commute, it's nice to have a pass on wearing two-hole MTB shoes from the velominati since these are banned under The Rules for a road bike.

Downsides: a bit heavier and less aero than a road bike and not as fast downhill as a proper MTB.
This is a good idea but he already bought the bike. That said...

Hustler was nice enough to supply two wheelsets with my cross bike. So I put Turbo Pro tires on one set and raced it. Learned the first time riding a CX with road tires that it is not the bike to bring to your second road race. I've since found I'm significantly slower on that bike than my road bike on my local strava segments and it drains my energy much faster. Mental? Fit issue? Handles lazy & numb on the street, like a buick instead of a Miata. Besides that, yeah CX's are very nice all around bikes and definitely worth considering for a solo bike household. Carries the kids & groceries well, bombs down the single track with authority, gets props by the legit-looking mountain bike riders.
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Or just skip straight to the cross bike and get a spare wheelset for the other discipline. With a decent enough cross bike you can accomplish everything you want to as an amateur road rider AND ride all but the most hardcore MTB trails. Not to mention, keeping up with the peloton on-road or the FS MTBs off-road while you're on a cross bike gets you kudos from the other riders. If you commute, it's nice to have a pass on wearing two-hole MTB shoes from the velominati since these are banned under The Rules for a road bike.

Downsides: a bit heavier and less aero than a road bike and not as fast downhill as a proper MTB.
lol I'm guessing your local trails and mine are very different... A cross bike would make it about 200 yards before double-pinch flatting and cracking the rims around here...




But yeah- cross bikes are great all-around bikes if you aren't out to race road crits or smash Strava climbs.
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That's like showing up to buy a car, and the guy taking it off the charger and says it just ran dead over time.

Your gonna need a new battery lol.

Luckily bike tires are cheap compared to car tires.
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Congrats!

get a tube on the smaller side. Don't bother getting a fitting for an air compressor. A good tire pump works better, quicker, easier. You will be refilling the tires often.

https://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Blow-S...ywords=joeblow

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I was wondering if anyone noticed.

thanks, I actually just picked up a pump a few min ago. and a set of those plastic tire levers.
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fwiw, check (and try different) tire pressure every morning. I do that and I believe its a good practice since it only takes a minute with the floor pump and your less likely to have a bad time.


also, good tires are/can be a cheap way to make your ride much, much more enjoyable. Im rubbing through my pair of Michelin pro4's and should be looking for some fresh rubber some time in the next month. it honestly took my bike from feeling rough and shitty to feeling like I was on an entirely different, smooth bike.
same can be said for my carbon railed saddle. so much smoother on the bottom compared to the Ti railed saddle I had before.



Now im looking for Carbon bars that have the traditional bottom with a compact top. Ritchey calls it their neoclassic but I cant spend $300 on a handlebar.
will do , thanks. I'm gonna start at 90 (min specified) and work up to 125 (max specified)
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Or just skip straight to the cross bike and get a spare wheelset for the other discipline. With a decent enough cross bike you can accomplish everything you want to as an amateur road rider AND ride all but the most hardcore MTB trails. Not to mention, keeping up with the peloton on-road or the FS MTBs off-road while you're on a cross bike gets you kudos from the other riders. If you commute, it's nice to have a pass on wearing two-hole MTB shoes from the velominati since these are banned under The Rules for a road bike.

Downsides: a bit heavier and less aero than a road bike and not as fast downhill as a proper MTB.
I already got a MTB which is pretty cool and different to ride, as well as a cheapie Hybrid 8sp that's also not bad.

Currently "ramping up" with the hybrid and hoping to start riding the road bike this weekend/next week.

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Now I feel dumb realizing 18psi just posted a similar bike and questions just a few posts ago. But still curious if you guys think the price is decent.

I'm starting to get back into road biking and I'm looking for a "new" poverty road bike. What do you guys think about this cannondale synapse? The bike will primarily be used for commuting(about 20 miles round trip) and grocery getting, but i would like to be able to go out and do 30-50 mile rides on the weekends as a decent pace. I'll probably upgrade to 105 components one at a time but what order should I upgrade in? shifters then derailuers then brakes?
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no worries at all. that's a decent price, but make sure the size is right for you, and I heard that production year/model is really important to know when buying, so ask him about that.

I'll let the pro's/bro's chime in about the rest of the stuff cause I'm a clueless n00b
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:09 PM   #3906
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Yeah 58cm is the size I usually ride. I'm a weird shape at almost 6'2" with a 30" inseam so I may need a longer stem. I'll have to ask about the year. (Edit :nevermind the synapse 6 goes further back than i thought)
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Picked up a roadie to crosstrain/do endurance themed rides. Put 20 miles on it yesterday and it was a breeze compared to doing 6-7 on the MTB on trails. Hopefully i can learn to pace myself, but I did also enjoy road riding yesterday despite some saying its boring. Managed to hit 40mph as well.

The bike i picked up is a 2014 leftover Fuji GranFondo 2.5. I think it's the base model Fondo from 2014, but has a C5 carbon frame and everything is Shimano 105 besides the crank and cassette. The crank is an Oval Sports 520 and Cassette is a Tiagra I believe. Very different feel going from an FS MTB with 18psi tires to a Carbon roadie with 110-120psi tires. The only complaint I have are the handlebars. The LBS I got it from suggested getting a shorter stem but I noticed comparing it to my friend's roadie that my handlebars extend forward WAY more than his, and he got on my bike and felt the same way I did, too stretched.

On my friend's bike, this section between my fingers doesn't exist. Basically where the brake lever grommet ends, the curve starts right away. If I put my hand further back towards my thumb, I am comfortable, if I rest it on the brake lever like I should, I feel stretchedI am looking at Carbon bars since they are not much more than metal ones, going to try that first, then possibly add a shorter stem, but one part at a time.



The only thing left to get are clipless pedals, which I am finding decent Shimano cleats and pedals for under $100 so far. If i like it, I might do the same for my MTB as well, though there's a lot of people who ride flats too.
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The space between your fingers in your photo is part of the reach of the handlebars. Different bars have different specified reaches - it's a measurement that all bars have. I've always liked compact bars with a shorter reach (around 75 mm or so) and drop distance. When you're shopping for new bars, just make sure you note the dimensions for their reach so that you're getting one that's shorter than what you have.
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Or just skip straight to the cross bike and get a spare wheelset for the other discipline. With a decent enough cross bike you can accomplish everything you want to as an amateur road rider AND ride all but the most hardcore MTB trails. Not to mention, keeping up with the peloton on-road or the FS MTBs off-road while you're on a cross bike gets you kudos from the other riders. If you commute, it's nice to have a pass on wearing two-hole MTB shoes from the velominati since these are banned under The Rules for a road bike.

Downsides: a bit heavier and less aero than a road bike and not as fast downhill as a proper MTB.
If I weren't doing so much crit racing, I'd have a hard time justifying a new road bike, ever. The Stig is a little long for crit racing, a bit like auto-crossing a Suburban, would not work well at the "Crit Theory" race:

Go to the 0:50 mark.

I need a set of road pedals for my Stiggy, in power-meter mode.
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Now I feel dumb realizing 18psi just posted a similar bike and questions just a few posts ago. But still curious if you guys think the price is decent.

I'm starting to get back into road biking and I'm looking for a "new" poverty road bike. What do you guys think about this cannondale synapse? The bike will primarily be used for commuting(about 20 miles round trip) and grocery getting, but i would like to be able to go out and do 30-50 mile rides on the weekends as a decent pace. I'll probably upgrade to 105 components one at a time but what order should I upgrade in? shifters then derailuers then brakes?
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Find a used CAAD10 or Allez with the group-set you want.
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Picked up a roadie to crosstrain/do endurance themed rides. Put 20 miles on it yesterday and it was a breeze compared to doing 6-7 on the MTB on trails. Hopefully i can learn to pace myself, but I did also enjoy road riding yesterday despite some saying its boring. Managed to hit 40mph as well.

The bike i picked up is a 2014 leftover Fuji GranFondo 2.5. I think it's the base model Fondo from 2014, but has a C5 carbon frame and everything is Shimano 105 besides the crank and cassette. The crank is an Oval Sports 520 and Cassette is a Tiagra I believe. Very different feel going from an FS MTB with 18psi tires to a Carbon roadie with 110-120psi tires. The only complaint I have are the handlebars. The LBS I got it from suggested getting a shorter stem but I noticed comparing it to my friend's roadie that my handlebars extend forward WAY more than his, and he got on my bike and felt the same way I did, too stretched.

On my friend's bike, this section between my fingers doesn't exist. Basically where the brake lever grommet ends, the curve starts right away. If I put my hand further back towards my thumb, I am comfortable, if I rest it on the brake lever like I should, I feel stretchedI am looking at Carbon bars since they are not much more than metal ones, going to try that first, then possibly add a shorter stem, but one part at a time.



The only thing left to get are clipless pedals, which I am finding decent Shimano cleats and pedals for under $100 so far. If i like it, I might do the same for my MTB as well, though there's a lot of people who ride flats too.
You want compact handlebars but after looking at your stem, bars, and saddle position, that frame is at least one size too big for you, probably two.
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Now I feel dumb realizing 18psi just posted a similar bike and questions just a few posts ago. But still curious if you guys think the price is decent.

I'm starting to get back into road biking and I'm looking for a "new" poverty road bike. What do you guys think about this cannondale synapse? The bike will primarily be used for commuting(about 20 miles round trip) and grocery getting, but i would like to be able to go out and do 30-50 mile rides on the weekends as a decent pace. I'll probably upgrade to 105 components one at a time but what order should I upgrade in? shifters then derailuers then brakes?
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Find a used CAAD10 or Allez with the group-set you want.
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Bad Bars
With cheap carbon bars (i.e. china), I noticed they often don't specify the basic geometry of the bar, or if they do it's not accurate.

hustler recommended these to me, and I enjoy them. Currently $27 shipped.

70mm reach, 123mm drop, 3cm flair outwards.
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38cm - at the hoods: 38 cm, at the bar ends: 41cm
40cm - at the hoods: 40 cm, at the bar ends: 43cm
42cm - at the hoods: 42cm, at the bar ends: 45cm
44cm - at the hoods: 44 cm, at the bar ends: 47cm

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don't get ebay carbon bits. wheels for whatever reason are the possible exception that people make but the brand name carbon is truly next level in comparison and worth the money and the skin on your legs/elbows and butt..

I bought an ebay carbon fork and just recently bought a replacement whisky brand carbon fork. both weigh the same but one is like closing the door on a track car in feeling vs closing the door on a new lexus. if you tap them with your knuckle. its scary and the ebay carbon is awful.
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don't get ebay carbon bits. wheels for whatever reason are the possible exception that people make but the brand name carbon is truly next level in comparison and worth the money and the skin on your legs/elbows and butt..

I bought an ebay carbon fork and just recently bought a replacement whisky brand carbon fork. both weigh the same but one is like closing the door on a track car in feeling vs closing the door on a new lexus. if you tap them with your knuckle. its scary and the ebay carbon is awful.
With November selling Rail wheels for $1400 with White T-11 hubs, why buy any other wheel other than to floss? I also will not buy no-name carbon fiber bits, don't trust my life to them. I hear Gigantex wheels are good too.
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lol I'm guessing your local trails and mine are very different... A cross bike would make it about 200 yards before double-pinch flatting and cracking the rims around here...




But yeah- cross bikes are great all-around bikes if you aren't out to race road crits or smash Strava climbs.
There are MTB trails and then there are MTB trails, lol. Plenty of the local MTB dudes (mostly on Santa Cruz bikes too, but Bronsons, Solos, etc.) are amazed what the Stig is capable of keeping up with them on. Would probably need to draw the line at the sort of thing that gets on Red Bull videos, lol.
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Anybody got an uber cheap set of tubeless 6 bolt disc cross wheels they want to part with? For Sonny, our warehouse manager.
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There are MTB trails and then there are MTB trails, lol. Plenty of the local MTB dudes (mostly on Santa Cruz bikes too, but Bronsons, Solos, etc.) are amazed what the Stig is capable of keeping up with them on. Would probably need to draw the line at the sort of thing that gets on Red Bull videos, lol.
I've been bombing the local trails with a shitty 32mm CX tire, I bet you can really scream on a Nano.
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Anybody got an uber cheap set of tubeless 6 bolt disc cross wheels they want to part with? For Sonny, our warehouse manager.
I have a free set for you but you'll need a new Novatec road disc rear axle. Interested?
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