hustler

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If it can't be repaired on the ride with this:

I don't need it.

I love the hydro-disc on my mountain bike, for the record. However on a road bike it requires different wheels, an engineered fork, and it costs a shitload of money. All of that, for what gain on the road bike?

Leafy

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"engineered fork" and by that children he means a tiny little bracket welded/bonded on.

Joe Perez

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Presumably you carry a similar tool in your car, and nothing on that car can't be repaired with it.

Oh, wait. You simply build the car out of well-designed parts that don't constantly break down.


Nobody's talking about hydro here. I specifically said "cable operated disc brakes." That's what I have on the Giant bike, and I love 'em.

Yes, they require different wheels and an "engineered" fork, whatever that means. (Compared to a non-engineered fork? I don't think I want one of those. In fact, I don't want any non-engineered parts on my bike at all. Engineers are better at designing mechanical things that prevent me from being killed than non-engineers.)

So what?

Simply buy the correct wheels and fork right from the start, and you're good to go. Even a Texan ought to be able to understand that.



Mostly the bullet points on my previous list, to wit; Superb control, good feedback from the wheel, ease of adjustment, and total imperviousness to water, mud, snowy slush, sexual lubricant, etc.

Leafy

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Naw dog, those sram red components that weight 2oz less than the shimmano slx bits scarified their reliability to loose that last half ounce. And when you have a 200 pound man on a 12 pound bike saving that half an ounce off the kike is super important, way more than the man loosing 10 pounds.

Joe Perez

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hustler

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Most fork manufacturers claim that moving the caliper from the head-tube down to a tein on the fork means they have to do more than bond threaded bungs to deal with brake-torque. We then have the joy of weak forks that cause the bike to turn when you brake.

hustler

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The bicycle is not "like a car" because bicycles are simple, human powered machines. I should never have to charge my bicycles, should never have to bleed the brakes, and should never have to pay someone to work on it.

Right... buy buy buy. Buy a bunch of **** that no one needs to ride a road bike for fun or competitively. Disc wheels are going to be over $1k, the fork is going to be $700+, all for what results?

You're tuning out to be a great New Yorker, telling people how much they don't know.

hustler

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...but I would totally ride this, fot in mouth:

hustler

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Shimano

Joe Perez

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WTF are you talking about? You do realize that some bicycles cost less than $10,000, right?


This is the chassis that I used as the foundation of the current e-bike:



Giant Revel 1 - Bicycles and gear for every type of riding - Giant, Santa Cruz, Diamondback, Raleigh, Felt, Fox & more

I paid a little under $500 for it a few years ago. Aside from the electronics package, the only hardware on it which I changed was the rear shifter (I wanted a twist rather than a trigger style on that side) and the saddle (because I wanted a comfy place to sit when I was just cruising along at less than 10/10.) It came with disc brakes, good wheels, etc. Do I need a suspension fork for what I do? Of course not. I'd prefer a solid fork, but that's just what bikes in this class come with, and I ain't gonna sweat the extra 2 lbs. Besides, this fork is Engineered.

And, if I'd lived in a place that were flat when I bought it, it wouldn't have even bothered with the electric conversion. These days, the e-bike hardly ever gets ridden anymore unless I'm going a really long-distance to haul some merchandise on a weekend. Maybe 2-3 times a month I take it out.


Aside from that, these are my two daily whips:



26" Roadmaster Granite Peak Men's Mountain Bike, Black: Bikes & Riding Toys : Walmart.com

(This was $95, now it's down to $90)






Citi Bike | Your bike sharing system in New York City

(This costs me $95 per year for unlimited access.)



Are my bikes as lightweight as these fancy carbon-fiber / unobtanium road bikes you keep posting? Hell no. Would they be anywhere near as fast in a race? Of course not. Could I probably travel a longer distance in an enduro-style setting on one of your bikes? I'd certainly hope so.

But I use bicycles as "real" transportation, not a plaything or a trophy. When I'm riding over rough, broken pavement with 20 lbs of groceries and liquor in the rear baskets and my fat *** working the pedals, I'm not counting weight in grams- I'm thinking "Boy, I sure am glad to have these fat, wide tires on double-walled rims with thick, heavy gauge spokes."

I don't mind if you want to buy some fancy carbon-fiber road bike to use as a toy. But don't confuse what I'm talking about for anything other than practical, day-to-day transportation. I suggest you spend a day walking around any city in the Netherlands or Germany, where there are more bicycles than cars, and see what kind of bikes the truly hardcore ride. They ain't made of CF.



And I don't know why you're having all these breakdown problems that you need to carry a toolset with you. I ride literally every single day, and I can't remember ever having a mechanical problem other than a flat tire while en-route that prevented me from reaching my destination. Again, totally different deal if you're deliberately going out into the woods and riding down steep hills for no reason other than to do so. That **** breaks bikes. But that ain't where I'm at.


Rim brakes, on a daily driver, are inferior to disc brakes. Period.

hustler

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Attn trolls: You have a home now.

https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs...6/#post1073360

hustler

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Get the Citybike **** out of my ******* thread!!! Jesus ****, you guys are bigger trolls than me. No one has ever given a **** about any bicycle with a basket on it.

Savington

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More expense, significantly more aero drag, higher rotating mass front and rear, and higher weight? Discs sound awesome, commuter crew. Sign me up.

hustler

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When your beach cruiser's basket is loaded-up with granola and organic vegetables, you'll wish you had the superior brake modulation that only several thousand dollars in disc brake components can provide.

Joe Perez

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It's like you're deliberately trying to be obtuse...

Handlebar baskets are for pink bikes with streamers. You mount a RACK to the rear, like this:



That rack serves as the foundation for whatever cargo system you want to hang. You can install collapsible wire baskets, or you can use it for a detectable cargo system like the Banjo Brothers Market Pannier. This is what I use, and it's great because you can clip it onto the rack and ride, then pop it off, extend the shoulder strap, and take it into the grocery store like a massive man-purse. You put the groceries into it as you're shopping (in lieu of a basket or cart) and then after you check out, you clip it right back onto the frame.






This guy is a little more extreme than me, but it gives you a general idea of just how much you can carry with a seemingly ordinary road bike:





I guess I'm not enough of a badass to really notice the extra aerodynamic drag of a brake rotor that's 3mm wide and weighs about as much as a single Clif energy bar.

Savington

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Get this **** out of here

Leafy

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Joe was just proving a point. Although that bike looks more like a bmx bike for grown ups because of the color and high seat, than a useful commuter.

hustler

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No one gives a **** but you. You can jock putting racks on a road bike when you get your randonneur badge.

hustler

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This thread is not about "useful commuters."

Leafy

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So this is like the hall flush thread then where we cant post useful vehicles?