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Old 02-19-2014, 02:43 PM   #1141
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Ive decided the fate of my vintage bike...

Upgrade it.

1.It rides really nice, but I hate the DT shifter. Going to hold out for a deal on 5700 STI's even though I just bought new brake levers for the bike. dumb on my part.

2.Building a light wheelset for it with smaller tires (debating 23 or 25c... all casual riding but I will be trying to beat myself on strava most days once the snow is gone) with a 5700 10 speed rear cassette which will likely mean I need a 10speed chain too.

3. 6600 FD

4.Saddle and post. My saddle was a freebie and it sucks, the post wont hold the seat in the same position if you change positions. (even though its #4 on the list, it will likely be #1 upgrade)

about $500 for this if I can find a set of STI's for $100.... maybe a little more though.




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Took the bike mostly apart to weigh some stuff to see what was REALLY out of place and for the most part its my wheels/tires and saddle/post. Should be right about 20lbs with my steel frame and fork with the new parts.
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2.Building a light wheelset for it with smaller tires (debating 23 or 25c)
Aero > weight. Repeat it over and over until you believe it. I can't believe how much faster my bike is above 18mph with the 1625g Flo30s over the old 1775g RS10s.
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Aero > weight. Repeat it over and over until you believe it. I can't believe how much faster my bike is above 18mph with the 1625g Flo30s over the old 1775g RS10s.
The wheels I am looking at should be fairly aero. Plus, my wheelset, that I assemble, will be about $300 front and rear-complete at about 1550g.



its a 30mm deep wheel similar to the FLO.


flo VS xr300.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:36 PM   #1144
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Ive decided the fate of my vintage bike...

Upgrade it.

1.It rides really nice, but I hate the DT shifter. Going to hold out for a deal on 5700 STI's even though I just bought new brake levers for the bike. dumb on my part.

2.Building a light wheelset for it with smaller tires (debating 23 or 25c... all casual riding but I will be trying to beat myself on strava most days once the snow is gone) with a 5700 10 speed rear cassette which will likely mean I need a 10speed chain too.

3. 6600 FD

4.Saddle and post. My saddle was a freebie and it sucks, the post wont hold the seat in the same position if you change positions. (even though its #4 on the list, it will likely be #1 upgrade)

about $500 for this if I can find a set of STI's for $100.... maybe a little more though.



Took the bike mostly apart to weigh some stuff to see what was REALLY out of place and for the most part its my wheels/tires and saddle/post. Should be right about 20lbs with my steel frame and fork with the new parts.
Can't see because it's on the other side, but if you have 7 speed cassette you will not be able to upgrade to 10 speed unless you have your frame stretched. With a steel frame I guess that is possible. I think that from 8 speed to 10 speed the spacing in the back didn't change, it either changed at 8 or 9, I can't remember, but it's definitely wider than 7 speed.

If it were me, and I know it's not, but if it were, I would keep the old bike the way it was stock ('cuz bikes of that vintage are cool) hang it on the wall as art, and scrape together as much money as I could for an updated one. There is so much that has changed from bottom brackets to headsets to stems to shifters to brakes to rear triangle width to front fork design...

Get a modern bike, ride the heck out of it, then upgrade when you get fit. That being said, as Sav pointed out, light, aero wheels are where it's at and will give you a much bigger performance gain than a light frame. But, hard training will beat light, aero wheels.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:40 PM   #1145
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If it were me, and I know it's not, but if it were, I would keep the old bike the way it was stock ('cuz bikes of that vintage are cool)
Yeah, the cyclocross tires on my (stole it from my dad) world sport look cool and all (and are much more useful), but I kind of miss the look of the gum walls on it. That and they're kind of too big in diameter and rub just slightly on the rear brake.
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:01 PM   #1146
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Ive decided the fate of my vintage bike...

Upgrade it.
I wouldn't.

Between the cost and frustration of upgrading a 20 year old bike, I'd just make it useable now (new seat/post?) and ride it as is. You will be nickel and diming yourself stupid trying to adapt new parts to an old frame, and at the end of it you still have a mostly old bike.

Ride it for a while as-is, and if you are enjoying yourself, then make a full upgrade to something modern.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:20 PM   #1147
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You have what you are pretty sure is the turbo off of a Jetta, and you want to know if you should put it in your miata, and what else to buy to make it work.

Just buy a bike from here and when you build your own frame or buy the one you want- just swap the parts over. Only $150 more in the long run and will work perfectly.
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Yes- that site is legit, yes- you will need to re-build it out of the box, and they are pretty much all rebranded Fuji and Giant.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:01 AM   #1149
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Ive decided the fate of my vintage bike...

Upgrade it.
I'd ride it until you save-up enough pennies for a CAAD10, TCR SLR, or Allez.
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The $ isn't the concern. the bike just rides real nice.
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I'd ride it until you save-up enough pennies for a CAAD10, TCR SLR, or Allez.
Specialized Allez comp - Markham / York Region Bikes For Sale - Kijiji Markham / York Region Canada.

Would be a nice buy I think.
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About to put this on the moving truck.

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urmmmph... I need this in my life... even with regular STI instead of DI2.
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urmmmph... I need this in my life... even with regular STI instead of DI2.
It's a china-frame. You can have it and they are willing to paint the frames for ~$75.


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I wanted to take a moment to let all you bros know that I'm manly enough that I killed the 105 RD after 5000 miles. The bearings are blasted, it's done. 6700 installed in it's place.
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This might be a stupid question, but what is the purpose of disk brakes on a road bike? Just so you don't need a durable surface on the rim to clamp on? The disks and calipers can't be lighter than standard lightweight rim calipers.
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This might be a stupid question, but what is the purpose of disk brakes on a road bike? Just so you don't need a durable surface on the rim to clamp on? The disks and calipers can't be lighter than standard lightweight rim calipers.
Go read a few pages back so we dont have to get Joe to come in and argue with hustler that there really isnt a weight or drag disadvantage, and anything bit there is is made up for by better modulation and ****.
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Go read a few pages back so we dont have to get Joe to come in and argue with hustler that there really isnt a weight or drag disadvantage, and anything bit there is is made up for by better modulation and ****.
I didn't argue weight or drag, I argued "unnecessary complexity". Then, I conceded that I'll probably own one in the somewhat near future when I decide I need a long-distance bike.

They are better in the rain, end of story.
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They are better in the rain, end of story.
And they may have saved Beloki a broken femur, in two places, broken wrist, and broken elbow when the glue overheated on his tubular under braking and the tire rolled off the rim at a pretty high speed. Ouch.

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And they may have saved Beloki a broken femur, in two places, broken wrist, and broken elbow when the glue overheated on his tubular under braking and the tire rolled off the rim at a pretty high speed. Ouch.

Chute de Joseba Beloki Tour de France 2003 - YouTube
It's a shame that Lance Armstrong wasn't killed in that crash.

Maybe my CAAD11 will have them.
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