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Old 01-01-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Any further attempts at muckraking are just going to get me banned, and then that's one less person to keep a watchful eye on Tom.
You can always create another account If they ban your IP, there are tons of free proxy server web sites which make your IP untraceable ...
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Old 01-01-2008, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That jackass treats his sponsorship like a soapbox to spread lies and misinformation. And what's worse- I don't think he even realizes that much of what he is telling people is wrong. It's like he was absent the day they taught engineering in school, and yet still believes that he's the Second Coming of Corky.
Tom's a special case he's been around for years and haven't changed one bit. At least he could've figured out how the Miata works during all that time, no such luck though ...
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Old 01-01-2008, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
To me, this sort of behavior puts him in the same league as eBay vendors selling bilge fans to Honda owners.

By contrast, take FM. I think we're all pretty much of a similar opinion that they are a cult of personality whose products are a tad overpriced, but I wouldn't call Bill or Terry a liar- they're just very good at marketing. And I suspect that they actually do know a thing or two about cars to boot.

Tom, on the other hand, is a liar.
Very true
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Old 01-01-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Clearly Tom is in the business of selling supercharger kits, and it is in his best interest to cause people to believe that his kits are preferable to everyone else's. I would be OK if he argued that his kits use electronics which are easier to install and require less knowledge to tune (true) but for him to claim that his choice of engine management is superior to (or even as good as) a real ECU (EMU, Xede, MS, Link, etc) and then make obviously false statements in support of this claim is tantamount to consumer fraud.

I'd really love to understand more about the relationship between Tom and Moss Motors. Those two seem to be in collusion, though I can't find any evidence of a formal business relationship between them.
Btw, I don't know how many of you guys have been around, but "Tom's" kit is not much more beyond a copy of BRP's Coldside kit - BRP's kit which I have in my car. Brant (BRP) made that sharp edge box in the past because it was CNC and not cast and when he did his cast design copy of the manifold he didn't even bother spending on time optimizing its shape for better flow, etc.

Look at his cast manifold, look at the BRP CNC manifold, and look some other Eaton SC kits which include cast manifold and you'll see what I am talking about
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Old 01-01-2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I would be OK if he argued that his kits use electronics which are easier to install and require less knowledge to tune (true) but for him to claim that his choice of engine management is superior to (or even as good as) a real ECU (EMU, Xede, MS, Link, etc) and then make obviously false statements in support of this claim is tantamount to consumer fraud.
Btw, he once had a standalone in his car (SDS). He failed miserably trying to tune it properly though. Ever since he is bad mouthing all standalones - if something doesn't work it is not his fault you know. Just like all those blown Coldsided engines - it was FM or someone else's fault...

No surprise though - the guy can't figure out things like what's torque at the wheels and why a Dynojet shows same torque numbers on the print in different gear pulls, can you expect such person to figure out how a FPR or standalone work?
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Originally Posted by Saml01
Who is this Tom? Is this Tom@FFS?

The guy on the left:

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Old 01-01-2008, 05:43 PM
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you can't be serious? That's not actually him right???
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Not sure if he’s the one on the left, but he’s definitely in that picture.

Here’s the fulltext of CARB EO D-617, covering his supercharger. Note that it is issued to Knack Toys LLC, with the “brand name” of FFS. http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-617.pdf

Here is the Knack Toys homepage: http://www.knacktoys.com

Here is a picture suggesting a relationship between KnackToys and the former BR Performance: http://www.knacktoys.com/BR-Performance/5.jpg

Here are the WhoIs entries concerning the registration of the FFS.com and KnackToys.com domain names: http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d...argers&tld=com
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=knacktoys&tld=com
Note that Tom is the registrant of both, with the same address, phone, and email.

Here is an article written by Tom for the Museum of Yo-Yo history: http://www.theyoyomuseum.com/museum_...ction=yoyo_tom

Here is a bio inferring that Tom does not play well with others in the Yo-Yo scene any better than he does in the Miata scene: http://www.mitchells.com/wordpress/?p=41

Here is a muck-raking page contributed to by Tom, alleging that a home builder in Tucson “cheated” him out of more then $300,000: http://www.mymccrearyhomesucks.com/images/vde.html Be sure to read the whole thing- apparently Tom can’t even figure out how to properly file frivolous claims in the state of Arizona.


God, if I’m not careful I’m gonna end up being one of “those guys” who spends all his time digging up dirt to satisfy a grudge.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by airbrush1
you can't be serious? That's not actually him right???
That's him
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sorry, but I think FM's "corrected" dyno #'s are unethical.
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Originally Posted by j_man
Btw, he once had a standalone in his car (SDS). He failed miserably trying to tune it properly though. Ever since he is bad mouthing all standalones - if something doesn't work it is not his fault you know. Just like all those blown Coldsided engines - it was FM or someone else's fault...

No surprise though - the guy can't figure out things like what's torque at the wheels and why a Dynojet shows same torque numbers on the print in different gear pulls, can you expect such person to figure out how a FPR or standalone work?
sds sucks. However, I don't see how anyone can't tune EFI. Once I got Haltech installed on my vw, it was almost as straightforward as MS.

There's a local shop, who shall remain nameless, who's owner I respect in the shop and especially on the track who can't seem to believe my car runs on MS. Actually, pretty much every local I know can't believe my car runs as well as it does on stand alone EFI. I mean ****, you'd have to be a moron to **** up MSpnp. These locals can't seem to believe that MS is a better option than PC-pro.

Its going to be a slap in the face to a handful of people the first time make car makes it through a track day.
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Originally Posted by j_man
That's him
seriously? I mean...with a ******* yoyo?
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jesus, I had a mental image of some younger type fat dude with a scraggly beard typing away furiously at the computer spouting **** about 5th injector intercooling and other worthless crap
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Originally Posted by airbrush1
jesus, I had a mental image of some younger type fat dude with a scraggly beard typing away furiously at the computer spouting **** about 5th injector intercooling and other worthless crap
yeah, I didn't expect Rip Taylor at the Grand ole Opry:
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
seriously? I mean...with a ******* yoyo?
That used to be Tom's primary business. He previously owned Playmaxx Inc., which makes yo-yos and accessories. Playmaxx was acquired by another company, and Tom retired. FFS is his current hobby.

Here's the Wiki on Playmaxx: http://yoyowiki.org/wiki/Playmaxx
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That used to be Tom's primary business.
Seems like his son was the driving force and he was the talking mouth ...





It is believed by some that because Air Traffic did not comply was the reason that Playmaxx/ProYo made the Mongoose yo-yo. The Mongoose was a small yo-yo that utilized the ProYo brake pads but it did not work out of the box; the yo-yo required the rubber shells from a Henrys Viper in order for it to play. ProYo never manufactured rubber shells for the Mongoose and seems to have expected people to take the shells off their Viper and put them on their Mongoose. It is important to note that the Mongoose is the natural predator of the Viper in the wild.
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Originally Posted by j_man
That's him
So which one is the Yo-Yo,cause I see two of them.
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So other then him touting his PC-Pro + 5th injector as the end all to fuel management. What else did he do to deserve this hate?

I remember when he came out onto the scene everyone was having kittens over his kits, honesty, and fast service.
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Originally Posted by Saml01
So other then him touting his PC-Pro + 5th injector as the end all to fuel management. What else did he do to deserve this hate?

I remember when he came out onto the scene everyone was having kittens over his kits, honesty, and fast service.
haha, yeah thats before a bunch of his kits started failing and motors startes blowing up due to failure to provide adequate tuning support to his clients and just slapping another PcPro to the equation, lols
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Originally Posted by Saml01
So other then him touting his PC-Pro + 5th injector as the end all to fuel management. What else did he do to deserve this hate?

I remember when he came out onto the scene everyone was having kittens over his kits, honesty, and fast service.
Anywhere you see a reference to "Fuel Injectors are not Intercoolers" is a personal rag on him, because he really does believe that his fifth injector setups qualify as intercooling. His kits are (allegedly, since there are a bunch of explanations for this) responsible for blowing several motors up, and I know at least one person in the CA Bay Area (eBoi on M.net) whose FFS car produces 30whp less than advertised. I've driven it. It's weak.

As far as his "honesty" goes, didn't he used to push a competing product as the new hot thing, and after his hookup with Moss he switched over to the MP62 as the new hot ****? Didn't Keith call him on this in the duck thread?
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