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My wife is a professional photographer; mostly newborn babies and young children. She also does maternity shoots and other stuff here and there.
Sometimes she has me work the camera when she wants photos of herself.
Earlier this year (in January) we got some snow here in the Charlotte area. My wife was 30 weeks pregnant at the time and she really wanted some photos taken with the winter wonderland look...
I clicked the shutter button and did the composition, but my wife set the camera up and did the editing. So, sort of my work? Not really though
Anybody have some low light, high ISO photos? I have volunteered to shoot an event. I have the flash photos covered, but at some point I will be shooting at 400mm (Canon L) f5.6, 1/180, 6400 ISO. Subject is people on a stage and audience. Biggest obstacle is my old camera body and high ISO noise. Just want to see how bad it is. Below is my test shot, cropped, not sized and post processed.
I occasionally shoot high iso and low light, but I either just live with the noise, or try to reduce it in Lightroom. I am not great with the noise reduction, so they often come out looking a bit like paintings. Sorry, probably not a helpful response.
Actually that helps- as I have no idea what cameras will do in low light nowadays. I quit spending big money when my work shifted from product photos to 3D renderings- so I'm clueless. But your comment (and others elsewhere) lets me know what's expected in low light.
Anybody have some low light, high ISO photos? I have volunteered to shoot an event. I have the flash photos covered, but at some point I will be shooting at 400mm (Canon L) f5.6, 1/180, 6400 ISO. Subject is people on a stage and audience. Biggest obstacle is my old camera body and high ISO noise. Just want to see how bad it is. Below is my test shot, cropped, not sized and post processed.
your first problem is shooting Canon for low-light.
Shoot RAW and turn off any image processing the body might perform like noise reduction.
I suggest a tripod if you're trying to shoot 400mm at 1/180 -- I subscribe to the rule-of-thumb of: min shutter speed = focal length x 2
Stage lighting should help.
this is 3200 -- 6400 doesn't look much worse:
https://flic.kr/p/CqYnHUhttps://flic.kr/p/CqYnHU by https://www.flickr.com/photos/80607199@N08/, on Flickr
ah here, this is 6400:
https://flic.kr/p/N6oqxEhttps://flic.kr/p/N6oqxE by https://www.flickr.com/photos/80607199@N08/, on Flickr
6400:
https://flic.kr/p/N6opDLhttps://flic.kr/p/N6opDL by https://www.flickr.com/photos/80607199@N08/, on Flickr
6400:
https://flic.kr/p/M5cp5Vhttps://flic.kr/p/M5cp5V by https://www.flickr.com/photos/80607199@N08/, on Flickr
my favorite 6400 shot:
https://flic.kr/p/rdrDV1https://flic.kr/p/rdrDV1 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/80607199@N08/, on Flickr
I'm very anti-NR. Noise is better than mushy poo.
your T2i is pretty old, and Canon is STILL playing catchup on sensor technology. Can you rent a better body? I'd suggest a 6D, but can you use the same lenses -- I know Canon is silly like that, cause who wants to allow users access to millions on millions of lenses no matter what body you use.
Your t29 is 2010, the D7100 is 2013, vs the 750D which is 2017. lol. Seriously Canon rested too hard an their laurels.
Yeah- my t2i is very old, but when photography was no longer part of the work game, I sold my 1D and got something that would shoot video and didn't weigh a ton. Your D610 images are significantly better and the range backs that up. This is not a paying gig so I'm not spending any dough to better my equipment. I'll have a t3i on a tripod with the 400mm for the stage shots and then a t2i around my neck with a 24-105 and flash for the rest of the shots. I'll get to see the location Friday for the shoot on Saturday and know just how good or bad it'll be.
Brain's advice is sound. I also agree that sometimes noise is the price you pay for photos that you wouldn't otherwise have. It may be important to manage expectations, sounds like you are doing a favour, you are not being paid to do a professional photoshoot, so they should not be expecting the results of shoot using high end professional equipment.
Is there anything you can do to lose the 400/5.6 requirement, that is a pretty poor combo for low light. If you are THE photog for the event, you may have to put your foot down on where you can shoot from. If that doesn't work, renting a better body/lens may be the best way of getting useable photos.
If they don't get the message about the long shots, you should protect yourself by withholding any that do not come up to scratch.
I can gain an F stop if I shoot at a shorter focal length. The lens is a Canon 100-400 L, so it's good glass. I'll need the 400 if I'm to catch any closer shots of faces during the performance. The 24-105 L is f4 and that will be on the other body, so I'll use that for shorter focal lengths. I got rid of all my fast glass because it was so damn heavy- same reason I got rid of my pro body. I got sick of lugging around all that stuff on trips. My gut says if I do everything else right on this shoot, nobody will notice the noise. And as brainy points out, the noise is most noticeable when you go looking for it. I should resort back to the days when I shot high speed film, noise was expected.
Noise is only noticeable at 1:1 -- who honestly cares about a little "grain" to the image?
Just go for it! The mono/tripod will help with the slower shutter speeds that are required -- it's possible when you spot meter once they are on stage, that you'll be able to bump the iso/ss.
Shoot RAW, for any recoverability. This is where ISO Invariant sensors are amazing. Since it's an older Canon: expose to the right if possible.
Most people are used to shitty cell phone images, so even your worst shots will be spades better -- plus you'll have better angles, and framing, and composition, cause you're not a 18yr girl taking duck-face selfies.
I just picked up a used D800, I sold my a6000 as nice as it was taking on trip, the stock lens was very soft on the corners with drove me batty, and I hated focusing with it -- I missed some of the easiest shots with it. Since it was APS-C, any decent lens for is just as big as any for my Nikon and kind of defeated the point. So I just deal with the big boy camera -- but I think for my trip this year, I'm going to pick up an older D lens for it to bring down the size and weight -- and take off my battery grip :P
Adelaide has a motorsport festival which was just recently. They have a 4 day tarmac rally and a big show at the Victoria Park section of the old F1 circuit with a range of cars fanging about and on display. It was cool to see some F1 cars in the flesh and driving about as I haven't actually seen/heard them before except on tv.
So here's a few photos. I have a long lens now and was attempting to film cars driving. Lots of practice needed here. I had lots of rolling shutter and I know that I need to practice panning with the vehicle and using a lower shutter speed... I've included the Porsche here to show how what I was doing wasn't working
The other disappointing thing is that as a punter you can't really get away from the fences or poles you must stick behind to take good photos at an event like this at ground level anyway... seeing all the posted official photos from guys with super expensive big lenses in between the gates... I may as well stick to photographing the display cars!
At Mallala though I may have more luck next sprint day.
So here's a few photos. I have a long lens now and was attempting to film cars driving. Lots of practice needed here. I had lots of rolling shutter and I know that I need to practice panning with the vehicle and using a lower shutter speed... I've included the Porsche here to show how what I was doing wasn't working
panning takes a bit to nail down, eventually you'll nail a 1/40 or 1/60sec shot and it's worth it.
The other disappointing thing is that as a punter you can't really get away from the fences or poles you must stick behind to take good photos at an event like this at ground level anyway... seeing all the posted official photos from guys with super expensive big lenses in between the gates... I may as well stick to photographing the display cars!
car shows are one of the worst places to take car pics.
cant see you images here at work, Ill look at home.
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