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Old 07-07-2011, 06:23 PM   #2441
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yeah that one. not talking about a curved trajectory.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:26 PM   #2442
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It wouldn't be curving the bullet path, it would be swinging the gun fast enough that the can is moved into the (straight) path of the bullet before the bullet clears the end of the can.



EDIT: Before I get challenged for saying the bullet travels in a straight path, I do understand ballistics. I'm treating it as a straight path since we're talking about distances of 6"-8" from the end of the muzzle.
If you could acccelerate (not move) the barrel of the gun fast enough while simultaneously shooting the bullet, then yes, it becomes completely possible to hit the silencer. Considering that normal handgun recoil isn't fast enough of an acceleration to actually hit it, I would say you'd have to be accelerating the end of the barrel pretty darn fast. I'm not going to pretend to know just how fast, but given the likelihood that the silencer is aluminum, the thin threaded section of the silencer might not be able to handle the force of the acceleration required to actually cause a barrel strike.
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It wouldn't be curving the bullet path, it would be swinging the gun fast enough that the can is moved into the (straight) path of the bullet before the bullet clears the end of the can.
I understand the difference and still protest that I do not believe it physically possible for this to occur in the hands of a person. Just my opinion.
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If you could acccelerate (not move) the barrel of the gun fast enough while simultaneously shooting the bullet,
Bear in mind that swinging a pistol in an arc around a fixed point (the shooter) means that it is always going to be subjected to acceleration so long as it is moving- it's just not accelerating in a straight line.

And yeah, this is purely academic- like arguing that if you stand still long enough you will be crushed to death by tectonic plate movement as the continent changes shape around you.

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And yeah, this is purely academic- like arguing that if you stand still long enough you will be crushed to death by tectonic plate movement as the continent changes shape around you.
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Let's assume we're using subsonic ammo (since we're shooting it through a suppressor, we're trying to be as quiet as possible, right?) that has a muzzle velocity of roughly 1,000 ft/s.

Let's also assume the suppressor extends 6 inches from the end of the muzzle.

0.5 ft / 1,000 ft/s = 0.0005 seconds

So, you have 1/2000 of a second to swing the tip of the suppressor far enough into strike the exiting bullet.

Let's be generous and say the internal diameter of the suppressor is 0.30 inches. That leaves a little less than 0.04 inches on either side of perfectly center .22LR bullet (since the bullet is actually .222 in diameter).

So you have 0.0005 seconds to swing the tip of the can 0.04 inches.

0.04 inches is 0.003333333 feet.

0.003333333 feet / 0.0005 seconds = 6.666666 ft/s

So you'll have to move the tip of the can sideways at roughly 6.67 ft/s to risk a baffle strike.

If I got all that right I'll be amazed.
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Let's assume we're using subsonic ammo (since we're shooting it through a suppressor, we're trying to be as quiet as possible, right?) that has a muzzle velocity of roughly 1,000 ft/s.

Let's also assume the suppressor extends 6 inches from the end of the muzzle.

0.5 ft / 1,000 ft/s = 0.0005 seconds

So, you have 1/2000 of a second to swing the tip of the suppressor far enough into strike the exiting bullet.

Let's be generous and say the internal diameter of the suppressor is 0.30 inches. That leaves a little less than 0.04 inches on either side of perfectly center .22LR bullet (since the bullet is actually .222 in diameter).

So you have 0.0005 seconds to swing the tip of the can 0.04 inches.

0.04 inches is 0.003333333 feet.

0.003333333 feet / 0.0005 seconds = 6.666666 ft/s

So you'll have to move the tip of the can sideways at roughly 6.67 ft/s to risk a baffle strike.

If I got all that right I'll be amazed.
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Don't forget, since the tip of the suppressor is extended (huhuhuhuhu) away from your wrist, it will accelerate quicker than your wrist..

lol. Thats a stretch. Love the math!
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The only thing is, you have to start swinging after the bullet left the barrel but before it exited the suppressor. which is a window of 0.0005 seconds.

good luck superman.
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Goddamn shame they're wasting all this fab work and engineering on a drift car:







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The only thing is, you have to start swinging after the bullet left the barrel but before it exited the suppressor. which is a window of 0.0005 seconds.

good luck superman.
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Goddamn shame they're wasting all this fab work and engineering on a drift car:

I wonder why they went with such a big heavy wheel and what looks like low profile tires on a drift car.
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because drift car?
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The only thing is, you have to start swinging after the bullet left the barrel but before it exited the suppressor. which is a window of 0.0005 seconds.

good luck superman.
Why? We know that the path of the bullet doesn't "curve" just because you are swinging the pistol. The bullet will exit the barrel and continue in a straight path; if the pistol is being swung fast enough, the inner surface of the suppressor can be swung into the path of the bullet.

Think of a more extreme example -- say we had a 10 foot long suppressor attached to the muzzle. Do you see how swinging the pistol and firing would easily lead to a baffle strike? It's the same situation with a 6 inch suppressor, you just have less time before the bullet clears, so the pistol has to be swung proportionally faster.
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Edit: It seems my picture editing and uploading skills aren't quite fast enough to beat simple typing yet :P
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Silly Eurofag, if you get banned, just e-mail tRick and tell him Google Translate fucked up.
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