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Old 09-22-2012, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by njn63
Because Bisimoto built it and there is some convoluted "engineering" BS he'll cite claiming it's better. He'll probably also post a graph of it making 2908 whp despite the fact the car isn't even done.
I was about to say something to this as well, plus its nothing but a glorified non-running trailer queen.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by njn63
Because Bisimoto built it and there is some convoluted "engineering" BS he'll cite claiming it's better. He'll probably also post a graph of it making 2908 whp despite the fact the car isn't even done.
Everything Bisi builds now is pretty much a show car, dyno queens. Thats exactly what his fans want, so thats what he does.
Thats why his headers perform really well, are very pretty, and crack welds all day long when actually used.

The performance of his camshaft grinds is enough to show that he and his engineers know what theyre doing. Its just unfortunate that all his customers are hard parking ****.



Gotta love big gains from just a cam without losses down low.


Also, this:

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Old 09-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Everything Bisi builds now is pretty much a show car, dyno queens. Thats exactly what his fans want, so thats what he does.
Thats why his headers perform really well, are very pretty, and crack welds all day long when actually used.

The performance of his camshaft grinds is enough to show that he and his engineers know what theyre doing. Its just unfortunate that all his customers are hard parking ****.

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Gotta love big gains from just a cam without losses down low.
Um... no.

Their parts ONLY make big power on their dyno. I have yet to see a head to head comparison where Bisimoto blew any of the top competitors out of the water on a dyno besides their own.

Are any of the top teams in the Honda world running Bisimoto parts? Last time I checked, no. If the parts performed as claimed, that wouldn't be the story.

Just a random example, a Bisimoto header getting outperformed by almost 20whp by a proper custom header:

Find me an unbiased, 3rd party test where Bisimoto products performed well against the top products on the market and I'll eat my hat.
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Never said they were the best. Thats doesnt mean theyre not good.

Its obvious that youre just one of the many people that have jumped on the bisimoto hate bandwagon along with the rest of hondat-tech. That forum, along with most other Honda forums is full of retards, if you dissagree then youre just one of them.

Speedfactory tested a **** load of cams in their record setting viatara D16 and found that their cams performed at least as good and better up top without sacrificing as much idle and driveability. Their car went on to make over 700 hp when the replaced their Zex 59500 with a Bisi cam.

The fastest Hondas out there are running custom ground cams. Theyre also running custom everything else.
Bisi products are not designed for 300hp/litere drag racing grenade engines, theyre ******* bolt-ons parts.

Its just a shame that their quality has fallen due to having to strive to make the prettiest little welds possible. Thats my only criticism.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by njn63
Find me an unbiased, 3rd party test where Bisimoto products performed well against the top products on the market and I'll eat my hat.
But... they have such a stylish logo and charge more than a thousand dollars for a 4 cylinder header. How can they NOT be the best?
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Never said they were the best. Thats doesnt mean theyre not good.
If you're custom designing headers (like they claim) and you're getting outperformed by 6%, you're doing something wrong.
Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Its obvious that youre just one of the many people that have jumped on the bisimoto hate bandwagon along with the rest of hondat-tech. That forum, along with most other Honda forums is full of retards, if you dissagree then youre just one of them.
haha, of course you write off everyone that disagrees as haters. Sounds like the normal hardparker script.
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Speedfactory tested a **** load of cams in their record setting viatara D16 and found that their cams performed at least as good and better up top without sacrificing as much idle and driveability. Their car went on to make over 700 hp when the replaced their Zex 59500 with a Bisi cam.
He designed the best cam for an engine that almost no one supports? You don't say.

Let me know when he makes a b or k-series cam that performs well.
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The fastest Hondas out there are running custom ground cams. Theyre also running custom everything else.
Bisi products are not designed for 300hp/litere drag racing grenade engines, theyre ******* bolt-ons parts.
But but, they're custom headers I thought?

And that video I posted was a little over 150 hp/L... not that crazy really.
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Im a hardparker? Thats hilarious.

Im not a Bisi fan boy. Ive never owned any of his products and I never will. Im just not a close minded idiot who will jump on a hate bandwagon like its oh so obvious you have. Your so called evidence is not applicable because it was backed up by an entire community of old **** who love to hate the person they once worshiped.

Continuing this conversation with you is pointless since youre mind is an unreceptive brick wall with HT graffiti on it. Not to mention its highly off-topic. So here some random pics:





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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Is the owner if this, this same dude?




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347whp and its NA...**** my life.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:28 PM
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Compare even the most rudimentary, **** Honda head to our 99 head.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pusha
Compare even the most rudimentary, **** Honda head to our 99 head.
Lets see. Same size valves as B series. Same port spacing as B series. Similar port angles. BP has larger bore than B series (same as B20). BP has less stroke and better rod ratio.

Its the ******* cams.

Just about any Honda has significantly more lift and duration on the cams.
This, coupled with the fact that there is nowhere near as much aftermarket support and how theyre are probably 1000x as many Honda drag cars as Miatas, nobody is even trying to build NA power properly.

Mill the head for quench, put some serious cams in, and port match the head to a skunk2 intake manifold and youll get honda like results from a BP. Ive yet to see it. I see people building so-called "badass" NA engines, but when you look at the cam specs theyre less aggressive than stock Honda cams.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Lets see. Same size valves as B series. Same port spacing as B series. Similar port angles. BP has larger bore than B series (same as B20). BP has less stroke and better rod ratio.

Its the ******* cams.
How many CFM does a BP head flow? Kind of skipped over that.

Looks like a 99 head flowed 207 on the intake side at .400" source. That actually isn't too that far behind a Honda.

This link says 205.2 cfm at .500": http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti...t_imports.aspx

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Old 09-22-2012, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Lets see. Same size valves as B series. Same port spacing as B series. Similar port angles. BP has larger bore than B series (same as B20). BP has less stroke and better rod ratio.

Its the ******* cams.

Just about any Honda has significantly more lift and duration on the cams.
This, coupled with the fact that there is nowhere near as much aftermarket support and how theyre are probably 1000x as many Honda drag cars as Miatas, nobody is even trying to build NA power properly.

Mill the head for quench, put some serious cams in, and port match the head to a skunk2 intake manifold and youll get honda like results from a BP. Ive yet to see it. I see people building so-called "badass" NA engines, but when you look at the cam specs theyre less aggressive than stock Honda cams.
Too many people are concerned with SR20 swaps, ITBs and protege valve covers to give a **** about serious performance. NASA couldn't save the BP at this point.
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I am here to to complain also...

Wait, no. I am just here for the luls.

(Maybe NSFW. Depending on where you work?)

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So you wonder what Hustlers been saving for by going NA



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yeah, subarus arent for dog loving liberals... no way.
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Saw this today in TF2. It motherfucking screamed Joe Perez.

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