The Sandra Fluke thread.
09-10-2012, 05:22 PM
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Who said anything about free? Nobody is getting anything free. How about you actually get something you pay for?
You pay the health insurance company to keep you healthy. When they deny you the medicine you need, that is a problem.
Seriously, just ******* read this already: Rush Limbaugh-Sandra Fluke controversy
You pay the health insurance company to keep you healthy. When they deny you the medicine you need, that is a problem.
Seriously, just ******* read this already: Rush Limbaugh-Sandra Fluke controversy
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09-10-2012, 05:29 PM
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Which republican is trying to govern our nation by enforcing religious ideas?
If anything, it sounds to me like the more right-leaning elements of the government, inasmuch as they've paid any attention to the Fluke issue, have tended to favor less interaction between government and religious institutions, by not attempting to use the government to interfere with the policies of a religious institution.
If anything, it sounds to me like the more right-leaning elements of the government, inasmuch as they've paid any attention to the Fluke issue, have tended to favor less interaction between government and religious institutions, by not attempting to use the government to interfere with the policies of a religious institution.
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09-10-2012, 05:33 PM
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But, i dont believe they should force you to have a sonogram. *******.
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09-10-2012, 05:34 PM
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So, if a Mormon owns a convenience store, he must be forced to sell liquor in order to provide the same standard of convenience as a store owned by any other person? If the catholic church owns a grocery store, they must be forced to sell condoms for the same reason?
I don't buy this argument one bit.
I don't buy this argument one bit.
If a religious institution wants to play the "hospital game", then there must be a certain level of standards to meet. If not, then they should be treated more like a voodoo clinic or accpuncture shop or chiropractor.
Not all insurance plans cover voodoo and chiropractic care.
She's a lawyer. If she signed on the dotted line for the insurance and the insurance policy clearly stated that she would get no day after pills for those sweaty nights in your arms then I don't see how she really has an argument.
I don't even think the Affordable Care Act (known epithetically to most of you as Obamacare) even requires that insurance pay for birth control.
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09-10-2012, 05:36 PM
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Texas is full of crazy people... choosing to have an abortion in cases of accident or rape is an personal option, but then there is choosing to do so far enough down the line where you can see something on a sonogram.
But, i dont believe they should force you to have a sonogram. *******.
But, i dont believe they should force you to have a sonogram. *******.
I can't get over the logic of this bull-dike knowingly signing a contract for health insurance, then a government stepping-in to change the terms of the religious institution. Religous idiots have the right to be as crazy as they want among themselves. If you don't like it, don't sign the contract.
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09-10-2012, 05:37 PM
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Stay on topic, AIDS-man.
I can't get over the logic of this bull-dike knowingly signing a contract for health insurance, then a government stepping-in to change the terms of the religious institution. Religous idiots have the right to be as crazy as they want among themselves. If you don't like it, don't sign the contract.
I can't get over the logic of this bull-dike knowingly signing a contract for health insurance, then a government stepping-in to change the terms of the religious institution. Religous idiots have the right to be as crazy as they want among themselves. If you don't like it, don't sign the contract.
aidsman?
I have no idea why its so hard to simply not agree with terms, dont sign and move on.
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09-10-2012, 06:06 PM
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You want to pay for our health policy? Here is our terms and conditions.
You signed? So you agree that we wont cover EVERYTHING...
K.
Wait, you want us to change the policy you agreed with because the need came up?
Naw dawg, go somewhere else if you dont like it.
You signed? So you agree that we wont cover EVERYTHING...
K.
Wait, you want us to change the policy you agreed with because the need came up?
Naw dawg, go somewhere else if you dont like it.
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09-10-2012, 07:09 PM
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I can't get over the logic of this bull-dike knowingly signing a contract for health insurance, then a government stepping-in to change the terms of the religious institution. Religous idiots have the right to be as crazy as they want among themselves. If you don't like it, don't sign the contract.
As to the rest, I kind of respect her temerity in seizing this opportunity to make a name for herself. Nobody mentioned my name in a speech at the DNC.
In the town where I grew up, there were (and still are) two hospitals. Fawcett Hospital is a private hospital which is independent (not owned by a larger corporation.) St. Joseph's hospital is also a private hospital (I believe they are either a charity hospital or a non-profit corp, but I'm not 100% certain), which is part of the Bon Secours Health System, a Catholic organization.
In the lobby of St. Joseph, there is an idol of the blessed Virgin Mary, as well as a great deal of other religious imagery. I think there's also a framed copy of their mission statement, which is "to bring compassion to healthcare and to be good help to those in need, especially those who are poor and dying. As a system of caregivers we commit ourselves to help bring people and communities to health and wholeness as part of the healing ministry of Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church. "
The two hospitals are literally right across the street from one another.
As a teenager, I was once hospitalized for a couple of days after I threw myself at the street from a bicycle and managed to give myself a pretty serious concussion. I was treated at St. Joseph. To the best of my recollection, they didn't burn incense over me or sacrifice any lambs- it was just pretty standard healthcare. They used modern technology and medications, and I was not given any religious tracts or questioned about my faith.
So, yeah. Your argument is invalid. Here's Sandra Fluke with some pancakes on her head:
EDIT: As concerns a previous thread in which I said "If it has images then I didn't create it," I did create this image myself using Jasc PaintShop Pro, from two separate pictures which I located using images.google.com. I did not take the original photographs, and thus, this image is a derivative work which I consider to be protected as Fair Use, in that I am using the images as a form of satire and political speech.
The fact that it has to do with performing an abortion is hardly relevant aside from the fact that this makes it easy fodder for politics.
If Sandra Fluke needs an emergency abortion while visiting Texas, I will gladly pay for her ultrasound.
Last edited by Joe Perez; 09-10-2012 at 07:49 PM. Reason: Added image disclaimer.
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09-10-2012, 07:38 PM
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Fucktard went to Georgetown which is Catholic, then complained that women can't get birth control there because birth control is not covered by the student health policy, rooted in Catholicism. Hussein Obamadinijad (Obama Ackbar!) decided that all ideas and beliefs which preclude birth control had to be eliminated and requires coverage now.
She felt she was being discriminated against, as a non-catholic. Even though the college may have a "catholic history" (whatever that means), it must comply with federal law if it receives federal money. Even in a ( non-college) catholic school, students must still pass state mandated exams, to prove the school is operating properly, and to receive federal and state aid.
As an atheist (catholic raised), issues like this are one of many which proves the separation between church and state does not fully exist. Tax exempt status for churches? WTF
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