Originally Posted by 2ndGearRubber
And NONE of that could have been done by ANYONE else, except NASA. Only NASA can do R&D work, no one else.
Oh, and LOL at lightweight wheel chairs. Crippled autox anyone?
All right 2nd, time to try to make you understand what is so absolutely ridiculous about what you are arguing - and why both I and others have repeatedly said your arguing tactics are flat out stupid.
In essence, you are asking me to prove god does not exist (Technology would not exist without NASA).
The burden of proof in this case is absolutely not
on me. It's impossible to prove that god does not exist - or that this technology would not exist without NASA. I can get close, but you have effectively created an impenetrable argument out of ignorance - I could very well ask you to prove you were a man and not a woman over the internet. Guess what? You can't prove it 100% over the internet either.
The burden of proof is on you
. You have three things to prove if you want to argue this, and then it is up to the other side to try to disprove any of the three.
First: The technology would exist without NASA. This is easily provable, unlike the statement "This technology would not exist without NASA". It is also logically equivalent, as unlike Mg's inversion, it's a contrapositive. Or, they mean the same thing logically.
Second: That the technology would exist in a time frame similar to what would have happened if NASA had not existed.
Third: That the economic loss from the later discovery would be less than what we spent on NASA.
All of which are far, far more provable than proving God does not exist - or, in this case, the technology would not exist without NASA.
Originally Posted by Sparetire
Just to turn this thread into even more of a ******* waste of electrons:
I find it funny that 'Christianity' is constantly blamed for the dark ages entirely. Rome was Christian, and overrun by hordes who worshiped a variety of other gods. This ushered in the dark ages more or less. Monks were the main means by which a lot of the old knowledge was retained.
And then the church launched a buch of wars and tried to keep said knowledge from the people, untill the Renaisance. And here we are.
But the 'Christians' did not cause the dark ages. If anything they failed to prevent them being caused by other peoples.
The best part of modern culture is that everyone has someone to blame. Wall Street and Corporations, The Government, Religion, Guns, Tom Cruise. Pick your flavor
Personally I blame TV.
And that's from about as much of a pro-Christian as you can get. Granted, to blame it all on Christianity is silly, but Christianity was the singularly most exacerbating factor involved in the Dark Ages.