VW is responsible for rolling global coal warming?
09-25-2015, 04:44 PM
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To me, in many cases, the idea, and the people acting out the idea are the same thing.
I dont hate you, Im just intolerant of you
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09-25-2015, 04:56 PM
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I also have to admit that i find the following highly gratifying and entertaining:
We have a pretty dam big "coal roller" culture here in AZ, and it has become a thing to cloud any prius that presents the opportunity. I see it once a week or so and its fuking hilarious.
We have a pretty dam big "coal roller" culture here in AZ, and it has become a thing to cloud any prius that presents the opportunity. I see it once a week or so and its fuking hilarious.
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09-25-2015, 07:26 PM
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There's a palpable difference between going out and riding a dirtbike in the woods vs. modifying a truck to blow black smoke in people's faces. The former principally serves to entertain the user, the latter principally serves to cause harm and discomfort to others. It is functionally indistinguishable from tripping blind people on the sidewalk.
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09-25-2015, 09:34 PM
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I like to take pit bull puppies up onto the Brooklyn bridge and then throw them off the side.
Anyone who disagrees isn't respecting my right to entertain myself.
Anyone who disagrees isn't respecting my right to entertain myself.
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09-25-2015, 11:46 PM
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Maybe I'm one of the few in the VW camp that has yet to have issues with this. The stigma associated with VW fails mostly comes from their MK4 generation.
Saying that, I haven't let my dealer touch my car once since I bought it new with 137 miles on the odometer.
VW really doesn't train their techs very well. A lot of issues people have had in their TDIs is from the techs not putting 507.00 oil in, and failure to follow the TSB to do a manual prime via the ECU after changing the fuel filter, allowing the HPFP to run dry and throwing metal into the fuel system.
In 101,000 miles I've never had a failure or problem. Most in the community believe that when failures occur, it is owner negligence. I also haven't had a DPF or exhaust flap failure since I haven't had either since 20k miles after my stage 2 tune and turboback exhaust upgrade though, so there is that.
You should see the panic on the tdiclub forums, it is hilarious how many have, "the sky is falling" syndrome.
Many believe VW is going to buy their car back, give them incentives on trade in for a gas model, give them cash(LOL), or something else ridiculous. At most, VW will implement the test ecu tune they used to defeat the EPA tests as the permanent ECU tune, and many believe they will be forced to add a urea injection tank at the cost of a smaller fuel tank.
If they do any incentives I will contemplate getting a 2016 GTI, after test driving one last weekend I was very impressed with the car(and the seats, oh god the seats!). Most likely though I will not take my car in for any of the recalls issued due to this unless a mandatory recall is forced upon me. In which case I will be selling it as I don't have anything on the car they would need to update it....
Mostly though, VW is going to have a lot of class action law suits on their hands once the "fix" comes into play. False advertising, false claims of power/efficiency, and most important of all, the loss of resale value due to the devaluation of the VW name. Many have lost up to $6,000 in private party sales due to the scandal, and they are blind with rage over it.
I'm mostly applauding VW being able to pull of this whole debacle. It is genius. It is "wrong" from a moral pov, but god damn does it take ***** to do that to EPA and especially CARB.
If you want to read a little about how freaked out all the idiots are over the news, peruse this thread and put a pillow on your hand otherwise you may knock yourself out due to facepalming.
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Volkswagen's Clean Air Act violations on 2009+ TDIs trigger massive recall, stop sale - TDIClub Forums
Saying that, I haven't let my dealer touch my car once since I bought it new with 137 miles on the odometer.
VW really doesn't train their techs very well. A lot of issues people have had in their TDIs is from the techs not putting 507.00 oil in, and failure to follow the TSB to do a manual prime via the ECU after changing the fuel filter, allowing the HPFP to run dry and throwing metal into the fuel system.
In 101,000 miles I've never had a failure or problem. Most in the community believe that when failures occur, it is owner negligence. I also haven't had a DPF or exhaust flap failure since I haven't had either since 20k miles after my stage 2 tune and turboback exhaust upgrade though, so there is that.
You should see the panic on the tdiclub forums, it is hilarious how many have, "the sky is falling" syndrome.
Many believe VW is going to buy their car back, give them incentives on trade in for a gas model, give them cash(LOL), or something else ridiculous. At most, VW will implement the test ecu tune they used to defeat the EPA tests as the permanent ECU tune, and many believe they will be forced to add a urea injection tank at the cost of a smaller fuel tank.
If they do any incentives I will contemplate getting a 2016 GTI, after test driving one last weekend I was very impressed with the car(and the seats, oh god the seats!). Most likely though I will not take my car in for any of the recalls issued due to this unless a mandatory recall is forced upon me. In which case I will be selling it as I don't have anything on the car they would need to update it....
Mostly though, VW is going to have a lot of class action law suits on their hands once the "fix" comes into play. False advertising, false claims of power/efficiency, and most important of all, the loss of resale value due to the devaluation of the VW name. Many have lost up to $6,000 in private party sales due to the scandal, and they are blind with rage over it.
I'm mostly applauding VW being able to pull of this whole debacle. It is genius. It is "wrong" from a moral pov, but god damn does it take ***** to do that to EPA and especially CARB.
If you want to read a little about how freaked out all the idiots are over the news, peruse this thread and put a pillow on your hand otherwise you may knock yourself out due to facepalming.
4,600 posts since last Friday!
Volkswagen's Clean Air Act violations on 2009+ TDIs trigger massive recall, stop sale - TDIClub Forums
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09-25-2015, 11:55 PM
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There's a palpable difference between going out and riding a dirtbike in the woods vs. modifying a truck to blow black smoke in people's faces. The former principally serves to entertain the user, the latter principally serves to cause harm and discomfort to others. It is functionally indistinguishable from tripping blind people on the sidewalk.
Smoking out priuses is wrong. Rolling coal in ways that don't effect others is not.
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09-26-2015, 03:23 AM
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Maybe I'm one of the few in the VW camp that has yet to have issues with this. The stigma associated with VW fails mostly comes from their MK4 generation.
Saying that, I haven't let my dealer touch my car once since I bought it new with 137 miles on the odometer.
VW really doesn't train their techs very well. A lot of issues people have had in their TDIs is from the techs not putting 507.00 oil in, and failure to follow the TSB to do a manual prime via the ECU after changing the fuel filter, allowing the HPFP to run dry and throwing metal into the fuel system.
In 101,000 miles I've never had a failure or problem. Most in the community believe that when failures occur, it is owner negligence. I also haven't had a DPF or exhaust flap failure since I haven't had either since 20k miles after my stage 2 tune and turboback exhaust upgrade though, so there is that.
You should see the panic on the tdiclub forums, it is hilarious how many have, "the sky is falling" syndrome.
Many believe VW is going to buy their car back, give them incentives on trade in for a gas model, give them cash(LOL), or something else ridiculous. At most, VW will implement the test ecu tune they used to defeat the EPA tests as the permanent ECU tune, and many believe they will be forced to add a urea injection tank at the cost of a smaller fuel tank.
If they do any incentives I will contemplate getting a 2016 GTI, after test driving one last weekend I was very impressed with the car(and the seats, oh god the seats!). Most likely though I will not take my car in for any of the recalls issued due to this unless a mandatory recall is forced upon me. In which case I will be selling it as I don't have anything on the car they would need to update it....
Mostly though, VW is going to have a lot of class action law suits on their hands once the "fix" comes into play. False advertising, false claims of power/efficiency, and most important of all, the loss of resale value due to the devaluation of the VW name. Many have lost up to $6,000 in private party sales due to the scandal, and they are blind with rage.
Saying that, I haven't let my dealer touch my car once since I bought it new with 137 miles on the odometer.
VW really doesn't train their techs very well. A lot of issues people have had in their TDIs is from the techs not putting 507.00 oil in, and failure to follow the TSB to do a manual prime via the ECU after changing the fuel filter, allowing the HPFP to run dry and throwing metal into the fuel system.
In 101,000 miles I've never had a failure or problem. Most in the community believe that when failures occur, it is owner negligence. I also haven't had a DPF or exhaust flap failure since I haven't had either since 20k miles after my stage 2 tune and turboback exhaust upgrade though, so there is that.
You should see the panic on the tdiclub forums, it is hilarious how many have, "the sky is falling" syndrome.
Many believe VW is going to buy their car back, give them incentives on trade in for a gas model, give them cash(LOL), or something else ridiculous. At most, VW will implement the test ecu tune they used to defeat the EPA tests as the permanent ECU tune, and many believe they will be forced to add a urea injection tank at the cost of a smaller fuel tank.
If they do any incentives I will contemplate getting a 2016 GTI, after test driving one last weekend I was very impressed with the car(and the seats, oh god the seats!). Most likely though I will not take my car in for any of the recalls issued due to this unless a mandatory recall is forced upon me. In which case I will be selling it as I don't have anything on the car they would need to update it....
Mostly though, VW is going to have a lot of class action law suits on their hands once the "fix" comes into play. False advertising, false claims of power/efficiency, and most important of all, the loss of resale value due to the devaluation of the VW name. Many have lost up to $6,000 in private party sales due to the scandal, and they are blind with rage.
Did you find the tune and exhaust to be worth it? Mine is all stock right now and the 50k service is due.
Aren't you currently using your TDI to tow the Miata? What will you do if you get a theoretical trade-in credit towards a 2016 GTI?
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