Want or do not want? Subaru BRZ STI
10-24-2012, 09:46 AM
#501
Also, probably bs and wont get put into them, but:
Subaru developing engine for BRZ Turbo
Subaru debuts a turbo version of the FA20 engine | Kaizen Factor
If they did, I'd probably go buy one cash moneyz
Would seriously be my "perfect car"
Subaru developing engine for BRZ Turbo
Subaru debuts a turbo version of the FA20 engine | Kaizen Factor
If they did, I'd probably go buy one cash moneyz
Would seriously be my "perfect car"
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10-24-2012, 10:16 AM
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This street car was quicker than a slow "race car" and not that far off of some very serious and/or very spendy hardware. As in, orders of magnitude more expensive.
Basically, this seems like a modern Miata coupe: it hits way above its weight class in near-stock trim and seems to have a load of potential with heavy mods.
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10-24-2012, 10:56 AM
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My understanding - and consider all of this third party hearsay as I did not have a chance to interview the owner in depth - is that the car is stock or near stock in terms of power. I was told by a friend of the owner that it has an "E85 tune" but I'm not sure how much difference that makes on those cars.
I believe he has off-the-shelf BC coilovers, wheels, tires and the tune. This is the Arsenal Autosport car that also ran the time attack event at PBIR (Palm Beach Intl Raceway, formerly Moroso).
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10-24-2012, 11:00 AM
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Cool. A stock car with wheels/tires beating the spec miata record on a short lap is pretty impressive, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a turbo car making close to 500hp before I start bragging about it to people who hate on the Toyoberu.
And yeah, if or when miatas become too rare to be this cheap (hopefully never) the FRS/BRZ would be my first choice for my new toy. Until or unless Mazda can't produce on a ~2200lbs ND.
And yeah, if or when miatas become too rare to be this cheap (hopefully never) the FRS/BRZ would be my first choice for my new toy. Until or unless Mazda can't produce on a ~2200lbs ND.
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10-24-2012, 11:21 AM
#511
Welp they better step it up and deliver on their rumors of a sub 2500 di boosted ND or whatever because they will get muscled out by all these new cars. Hyundai has tonsa power but is a pig. Toyobaru isn't a pig but also doesn't have tonsa power. If the ND could have ok power (at least a bit over 200) AND be under 2600lbs I'd consider them "back in the game"
Often times I think I'm the most negative, pessimistic ******* I know.
Then I look at you and suddenly I'm a "glass half full" person
Seriously man........Give other cars a chance.
lol
Then I look at you and suddenly I'm a "glass half full" person
Seriously man........Give other cars a chance.
lol
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10-24-2012, 11:48 AM
#512
Those stats are also highly unlikely because Mazda is not a huge automaker and does not have loads of cash or the ability to amortize their costs over ginormous production runs. Realistically I think they can pull off a sub 2300lb miata with roughly 170hp and maybe 180hp if they push it. Do not expect >200hp because that is just not going to happen as it would be cost prohibitive.
They will always sell the miata well because there just is no other 2 seat convertible roadster in that price range and it has already been stated that the BRZ/FR-S will not come to america in a convertible form because it would cost too much and no one would buy it, or so they say.
I just hope Mazda doesn't try to put a 1.3 turbo engine in the miata like some rumors state. I would rather them put in the 2.0l skyactive engine they already have developed and tune it a little more for performance and less for mpg's. I feel like that would be the most cost effective solution for them.
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10-24-2012, 02:36 PM
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Those stats are also highly unlikely because Mazda is not a huge automaker and does not have loads of cash or the ability to amortize their costs over ginormous production runs. Realistically I think they can pull off a sub 2300lb miata with roughly 170hp and maybe 180hp if they push it. Do not expect >200hp because that is just not going to happen as it would be cost prohibitive.
Which is why they are partnered with Alpha on the chassis.
I am not sure how the 2.0L skyactiv handles boost. But a 1.4 turbo wouldn't be terrible; as long as it could still spool up an EFR6258 I would be happy.
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10-24-2012, 03:25 PM
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No. S60 or S80, maybe.
Aww thanks. 
Sorry, I just don't understand the ******* swingers..
Still do not want.
Just think, at average cost of an NA miata you could buy almost 12 of them for the same price! Or a properly setup LSx miata...
Sorry, I just don't understand the ******* swingers..
Still do not want.
Just think, at average cost of an NA miata you could buy almost 12 of them for the same price! Or a properly setup LSx miata...
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10-24-2012, 03:30 PM
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I just hope Mazda doesn't try to put a 1.3 turbo engine in the miata like some rumors state. I would rather them put in the 2.0l skyactive engine they already have developed and tune it a little more for performance and less for mpg's. I feel like that would be the most cost effective solution for them.
The best scenerio we could ask for would be for a larger discplacement motor that has plenty of options to go even bigger (like the current NC motor). Also have a cylinder head that has the right valve angle and runner geometry, but also has plenty more volume potential. I would prefer it to start out with a small camshaft too.
There is something fun about the ability to uncork a motor and get large gains from a build up. A motor that is already hopped up near the ceiling of its potential is no fun. Never mind the much higher expense to see the same gains.
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