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Old 11-23-2011, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Nice wagon. I would buy either. I bought my 2004 FXT with 100K miles for 10K.

Make sure timing belt and maintenance has been done. Tbelt is apparently no fun and it needs to be done because it's an interference motor.
Timing belt isn't any more difficult than a miata. It's significantly easier than most cars. I recommend an OEM timing belt cause there's lines on the belt corresponding to each timing mark that make aligning it super simple, 1 person job. Well worth whatever extra the belt may cost. Otherwise it's a multi-person job to keep all 4 cams from rotating as you try to keep them where they need to be as you wrap the belt around all the different idlers, and no doubt 1 pulley will be off a tooth causing you to redo it all over again, and again...
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LGT without the rear spoiler...nice. I like that one. I forwarded the add to my wife too
Don't be a bitch!!

Yeah, I actually prefer the look of the LGT's without the rear spoiler.
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Id say either one is fine. They're both over 100k so I don't see paying a grand more for 30k miles.
What DOES matter is the overall condition of each, and most importantly compression test results (like mentioned above). Maintenance paperwork is a big plus of course, and hopefully the 105k has been done on them, cause if not you need to factor at least 500-600 for that service (doing it yourself btw, cause stealer would want way more than that for it).

If you have a ton of **** to lug around, I'd definitely be more interested in teh wagon, because despite the sedan having a big trunk (much larger than the imprezas) its still a trunk, vs a BIG *** amount of space in the wagon which is awesome.
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AWD, Auto, Reliable - XJ Cherokee. 10-13k will buy you the nicest one on earth, with enough $$$ left over for heated leather dickwarmers, a 12" lift kit/44s and a Monster Energy vinyl wrap, or to create an all around zombie-apocalypse vehicle.

I have one and its great. Same color as this, wanting a similar mild lift.

I paid 1800 for my 1998 . 5spd ftw!

I'm doing 18/22 or so for mileage and did 16 towing a full dual axle open trailer and track car.
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Vlad - So then I shouldn't be deterred by the 100k+ mileage? Whereas an American car, anything over 100k is almost an immediate no go.

The blue sedan seems to have all the paperwork of the required maintenance and was a 1 owner car to boot.

The silver wagon is more of what I'm looking for, but it has the higher mileage and not such a stellar record from what I can tell.

Either way I'm hoping to go look at both of them this weekend. Possibly drop a deposit if it seems good to go.

I have a compression tester, but would they actually let me start wrenching away under the hood to check?
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
Timing belt isn't any more difficult than a miata. It's significantly easier than most cars. I recommend an OEM timing belt cause there's lines on the belt corresponding to each timing mark that make aligning it super simple, 1 person job. Well worth whatever extra the belt may cost. Otherwise it's a multi-person job to keep all 4 cams from rotating as you try to keep them where they need to be as you wrap the belt around all the different idlers, and no doubt 1 pulley will be off a tooth causing you to redo it all over again, and again...

Thank you for the tip! By 200K miles I will probably have replaced it with something more practical. Like a porsche cayenne with a cummins in it.

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Vlad - So then I shouldn't be deterred by the 100k+ mileage? Whereas an American car, anything over 100k is almost an immediate no go.

The blue sedan seems to have all the paperwork of the required maintenance and was a 1 owner car to boot.

The silver wagon is more of what I'm looking for, but it has the higher mileage and not such a stellar record from what I can tell.

Either way I'm hoping to go look at both of them this weekend. Possibly drop a deposit if it seems good to go.

I have a compression tester, but would they actually let me start wrenching away under the hood to check?
Yes chipmunk slayer, 100k is fine.
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I dunno if they'll let you do the compression check on the spot, its not exactly your typical 5 minute job on a subaru. Would be great if they did, that's the ej255's biggest problem: shitty ringland faeflora.

the 1-owner w/ all documentation car sounds like a winner to me, but I'd still check out both. Just keep a few hundo aside for random bs, because my buddy just bought an 05 LGT w/ 96k miles in great shape from original owner a few months ago, I even inspected it for him and it looked like a champ, then about 2-3 months later the damn thing gets a rip in teh turbo inlet. We were both like "WTF". I replaced it for him though. He paid 11k for his. LOVES IT!!

find out EXACTLY what was done to each maintenance wise. try to get as much history on both as possible (obviously the 1-owner is going to have a spotless history IMO)

take each for a test drive. go from there.
both look like decent deals considering its middle of winter
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Yes chipmunk slayer, 100k is fine.
Good to know.

I'd rather spend $10k than up it to $15k just to find one with 60k-80k miles.

The more I save on the initial purchase price the more money I can put into it. lol

Although I doubt I'd do any more than tint, wheels, and proper suspension.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I dunno if they'll let you do the compression check on the spot, its not exactly your typical 5 minute job on a subaru. Would be great if they did, that's the ej255's biggest problem: shitty ringland faeflora.

the 1-owner w/ all documentation car sounds like a winner to me, but I'd still check out both. Just keep a few hundo aside for random bs, because my buddy just bought an 05 LGT w/ 96k miles in great shape from original owner a few months ago, I even inspected it for him and it looked like a champ, then about 2-3 months later the damn thing gets a rip in teh turbo inlet. We were both like "WTF". I replaced it for him though. He paid 11k for his. LOVES IT!!

find out EXACTLY what was done to each maintenance wise. try to get as much history on both as possible (obviously the 1-owner is going to have a spotless history IMO)

take each for a test drive. go from there.
both look like decent deals considering its middle of winter
Thanks for the info Vlad. I consider you the forum's Subie dude.

The ONLY thing I don't like about the sedan is the color. That dark blue isn't my favorite, but I guess I cant be picky when there isn't a hell of a lot to choose from. At least its not the gay light atlantic blue color, that **** is just 100% lesbo car color.

I wish I had got on the ball sooner, but I was unsure of work throughout the winter so I had to wait. Now that I have more lined up than I can handle I should be just fine.
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The place with the blue sedan called back and said that the car is out having the turbo replaced. I asked him why and he said the car wasn't making boost.

I'm guessing this isn't necessarily a bad thing?? Considering the old turbo was 100k miles old (assuming it was the original).

He said he'll give me a call next week when they get it back. What do you think bout that?
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I'd have a mechanic check it out fo sho. I had a miata checked out before I bought mine. Turns out it was leaking oil, but it couldn't be seen except on the undercarriage of the car.
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well the upside is that assuming everything else is in good shape you get a brand new turbo.
the downside is the turbos on these cars don't "just" go out, or at least not very often.
now since its an auto legacy sedan w/ 1 owner Im doubtful it was beaten to ****, but you never know.

tell em you'll put a deposit down if they do a compression test on it "while its in the shop".

ps: my buddies "made no boost" as well, til I looked at the TB-to-tmic house clamps, which were literally just hanging there lol
Tightened the clamps and he's like "HOLY **** MY CAR GAINED LIKE 50HP, WHAT DID YOU DO"

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I'd have a mechanic check it out fo sho. I had a miata checked out before I bought mine. Turns out it was leaking oil, but it couldn't be seen except on the undercarriage of the car.
I've been our acting mechanic for awhile now, so I guess I'll be alright checking it out myself. lol

So long as the guys in the know tell me what to look out for (like they have been), I'll check it out properly.

Although I should be kicked in the face for the POS I got last year that I thought I checked out properly. **** me.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
well the upside is that assuming everything else is in good shape you get a brand new turbo.
the downside is the turbos on these cars don't "just" go out, or at least not very often.
now since its an auto legacy sedan w/ 1 owner Im doubtful it was beaten to ****, but you never know.

tell em you'll put a deposit down if they do a compression test on it "while its in the shop"
Great idea! While its at the shop I'll see if they'll do that! ******* good thinking broham.

EDIT: Just called and the guy says "there's nothing wrong with the compression" soon as I asked. I told him that I'd be willing to come up and put a deposit on it if he was willing to check the compression while its being worked on. He eventually agreed, but insisted the car is fine and that I'LL LOVE IT. lol

******* used car salesman are THE WORST.
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Try to be sure they don't somehow squirt a bunch of oil in the holes before the compression check.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
Try to be sure they don't somehow squirt a bunch of oil in the holes before the compression check.
Unfortunately, I'm not going to be there. I guess I'll have to go off the carfox and take his word as far as the compression results.

I'm def not going to jump on it just for the sake of jumping on it. Still a little time before winter to find the right LGT for me. Nonetheless though, I'm going to go check it out and test drive it.
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
Although I should be kicked in the face for the POS I got last year that I thought I checked out properly. **** me.
You probably do like the rest of us 90% and get excited when your about to make a purchase which makes you blind till you get it home.

I remember you saying you were sleeping on friends couches right now... Will you be able to sing the added loan of the 10-13k for this car or will you be giving it back to the bank in a year?
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I remember you saying you were sleeping on friends couches right now... Will you be able to sing the added loan of the 10-13k for this car or will you be giving it back to the bank in a year?
That was only because the storm fucked our **** up and we were without power for 10 days. We're both back home now and I'm no longer on couches. lol

Working for myself I have no cap. If things keep going they way they are I'm hopefully that I may be able to pay the whole thing off in a year. I just don't want to go overboard on anything right now so $10k-$13k is a nice range to work with.
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So I found another one for $2k less than what I was expecting to pay. I have it setup to go see it this week but I want to run a carfax on it. I did have a pretty slick method of getting free reports through eBay, but they have since changed their fee structure so it no longer works.

If anyone on here could hook me up with a report that would be awesome! If you have the means please just shoot me a PM and I'll give you the vin.

I'm pretty excited!!
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Officially going to see the car on Saturday.

Here's the carfox the guy sent me. I told him that if he paid for the report and I ended up buying the car that I'd reimburse him for it. I figured that was fair.

http://www.carfax.com/cfm/FSBO.cfm?r...#DetailSection

What do you think about the report?

He also gave me a FYI that both registered owners are him. 1st it was a company vehicle which was eventually transferred to him as his personal vehicle. So its still a 1 owner like advertised.

KKB says in very good condition the car is valued at $12,500. I wont tell what I paid until I either buy it or walk away from it.

Anything else I should ask between now and when I actually go see the car? Such as speicifc maintanence performed? Seeing that the report can be rather vauge at times.
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