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I've browsed it, but don't plan on joining the forum. I don't care for the tone and atmosphere. I have joined thefiringline and glocktalk, which both seem to be good sites. There are a lot of guys on tfl and gt that also have pretty high end weapons that daily carry a PF9 or P11.
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9x18 has such a low muzzle energy that you should NEVER CARRY HP ammo in one, the same for .380. The energy is so low that they only get 3-4" of penetration. 6" is the minimum "required lethal penetration". So, the moral of the story is that if you intend to carry a gun for self defense instead of paper, buy something with more *** than a 9x18 or .380. 9mm is a good round, .40 is better but you have to trade capacity.
I'm pretty sure the Makarov is a standard eastern european police issue weapon. It's not exactly powerful, but I doubt it would have become a reasonable police standard if it didn't "get the job done."
Either way, I'll see soon enough. I heard I'm getting a second hand early birthday present that was probably used by it's last owner to put holes in Ukranian burglars.
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I'm pretty sure the Makarov is a standard eastern european police issue weapon. It's not exactly powerful, but I doubt it would have become a reasonable police standard if it didn't "get the job done."
Either way, I'll see soon enough. I heard I'm getting a second hand early birthday present that was probably used by it's last owner to put holes in Ukranian burglars.
Either way, I'll see soon enough. I heard I'm getting a second hand early birthday present that was probably used by it's last owner to put holes in Ukranian burglars.
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I'm pretty sure the Makarov is a standard eastern european police issue weapon. It's not exactly powerful, but I doubt it would have become a reasonable police standard if it didn't "get the job done."
Either way, I'll see soon enough. I heard I'm getting a second hand early birthday present that was probably used by it's last owner to put holes in Ukranian burglars.
Either way, I'll see soon enough. I heard I'm getting a second hand early birthday present that was probably used by it's last owner to put holes in Ukranian burglars.
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if I'm going to get the firearm out, I don't want the ******* to live...and that's not some e-thug ****. If I have to use it, I want to be sure I stop them. .45 all the way. I carry a .45 semi.
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My dad is an avid gun enthusiast, but doesn't carry. I've also known people who are "anti-gun" liberal fuckos, that buy a gun on the street because they have a felony record for DWIs and can't buy one with papers.
As long as your remain cool with our right to carry, we will be cool with your right to not carry
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Hustler, though totally not the right person to take any turbo related advice from, can teach you a lesson on why it's important that good guys should carry guns too. Maybe if you ask him real polite like, he'll share.
Other interesting support. There is a town in GA called Kennessaw where for many years it was a law that every head of household owned a firearm. There was no crime to speak of there, until recently when the law was eventually repealed. However the crime rate there is still extremely low compared to the average, as all the bad guys know that most households still pack.
Other interesting support. There is a town in GA called Kennessaw where for many years it was a law that every head of household owned a firearm. There was no crime to speak of there, until recently when the law was eventually repealed. However the crime rate there is still extremely low compared to the average, as all the bad guys know that most households still pack.
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Once again, I get destracted from the forum for a few days and miss the bulk of a good thread.
Ben, good luck with the Kel-Tec and keep an eye on the extractor. It tends to be the weakest point on the weapon.
I just picked up not one, but two, Ruger LCPs; one for me, one for the wife. Made the purchase at lunch on Wed and stopped at the range on the way home from work. At 20-yards I was able to get a 7-8 inch grouping sitting about 14-16 inches S-SW (low and left) of center. At 15-yards the drop was within 8 inches. - More than adequate for a pocket gun with a 2.8 inch barrel.
Flip is manageable and after break-in, I figure I should be able to get a reliable double-tap from the weapon. Cor-Bon JHPs will compensate for the smaller round.
My Kimber CDP Pro is my preferred carry option, but summer time in South Texas does lead toward lighter clothing making concealment a touch more difficult. Dropped in the front pocket of a pair of Dockers or Levis, the LCP is essentially invisible.
Cheers!
- L
PS - (Kotomile): The push to the M9s was an attempt to standardize rounds within NATO. However, most SOF units have switched back to the .45s.
Ben, good luck with the Kel-Tec and keep an eye on the extractor. It tends to be the weakest point on the weapon.
I just picked up not one, but two, Ruger LCPs; one for me, one for the wife. Made the purchase at lunch on Wed and stopped at the range on the way home from work. At 20-yards I was able to get a 7-8 inch grouping sitting about 14-16 inches S-SW (low and left) of center. At 15-yards the drop was within 8 inches. - More than adequate for a pocket gun with a 2.8 inch barrel.
Flip is manageable and after break-in, I figure I should be able to get a reliable double-tap from the weapon. Cor-Bon JHPs will compensate for the smaller round.
My Kimber CDP Pro is my preferred carry option, but summer time in South Texas does lead toward lighter clothing making concealment a touch more difficult. Dropped in the front pocket of a pair of Dockers or Levis, the LCP is essentially invisible.
Cheers!
- L
PS - (Kotomile): The push to the M9s was an attempt to standardize rounds within NATO. However, most SOF units have switched back to the .45s.