Yet Another Gun Thread
#3241
I'm thinking about it. 9mm and .223 are the cheapest ammo you can buy next to .22lr... so I've really got do so some math to figure out exactly where my break-even point will be. Just off the top of my head, as a recreational shooter, I'm looking at a 5-8yr "break-even" point assuming $1000 buy-in for reloading equipment. After that, everything is half-price... but for now, I'm not sure it's worth it for limited quantities in my 2 main calibers.
Of course this doesn't include my "stockpile"... so I suppose new math is required. What I really need to do is get a buddy to go in halves with me on the equipment and agree to keep it at my house.
Of course this doesn't include my "stockpile"... so I suppose new math is required. What I really need to do is get a buddy to go in halves with me on the equipment and agree to keep it at my house.
#3242
I'm thinking about it. 9mm and .223 are the cheapest ammo you can buy next to .22lr... so I've really got do so some math to figure out exactly where my break-even point will be. Just off the top of my head, as a recreational shooter, I'm looking at a 5-8yr "break-even" point assuming $1000 buy-in for reloading equipment. After that, everything is half-price... but for now, I'm not sure it's worth it for limited quantities in my 2 main calibers.
Of course this doesn't include my "stockpile"... so I suppose new math is required. What I really need to do is get a buddy to go in halves with me on the equipment and agree to keep it at my house.
Of course this doesn't include my "stockpile"... so I suppose new math is required. What I really need to do is get a buddy to go in halves with me on the equipment and agree to keep it at my house.
And then, when I think about a reloading setup, I also start thinking about buying less popular caliber guns...
Ohio prohibits rifles for deer hunting; HOWEVER, pistols are perfectly legit for deer hunting, under 3 conditions:
1. Bullets must be of .357 Caliber or larger
2. Barrel length must be at least 5"
3. Gun must use straight-walled cartridges
With all that in mind, I've started looking at the possibility of buying a stripped lower, registering it as a pistol (perfectly legit, as long as it was never made into a rifle), and then building an AR platform pistol. At first, I kept looking for the .45 acp kits, but eventually I came across the ".50 beowulf" cartridge...
The dreaded .50 caliber ‘assault pistol’ « Armed and Free
By Ohio Law, this would be perfectly legal for deer hunting, and since there is no "3 round limit" on pistols as there are in shotguns, I could miss 3 times and still continue shooting
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My new-to-me 6.5 Grendel - Alexander upper, Troy BUIS, on Mega lower, mod stock, etc...
I would have passed, but snatched at pre-Sandy pricing - plus I still have some .264" projectiles I can use/reload from when I had my GAP260. Certainly not your shtf weapon of choice as the cartridge is not abundant, but I can put my Dillon to use.
Also, not sure if I ever posted, but this is what greets me every morning when getting ready gotta fix that pressure pad..
I would have passed, but snatched at pre-Sandy pricing - plus I still have some .264" projectiles I can use/reload from when I had my GAP260. Certainly not your shtf weapon of choice as the cartridge is not abundant, but I can put my Dillon to use.
Also, not sure if I ever posted, but this is what greets me every morning when getting ready gotta fix that pressure pad..
Last edited by GeneSplicer; 01-12-2013 at 10:16 PM.
#3244
Bought a Ruger SR9 and SR22 today with Dad. The 22 will be for Mom to carry around in her purse, at least he intends it that way. The SR9 will serve home defense duties.
Sadly, none of the local stores seem to have any 22lr or 9mm rounds in stock.
Sadly, none of the local stores seem to have any 22lr or 9mm rounds in stock.
Last edited by Bryce; 01-12-2013 at 09:49 PM.
#3247
From pistol-length barrels, a .22lr simply doesn't have the energy needed for an instantly incapacitating shot unless it's to the head no matter where you hit them. Sure, somebody gut-shot with a .22lr may bleed out eventually, but in the instant of time surrounding the shooting, you are simply relying on the hit to create enough pain in the person that he gives up instantly, because the damage caused will not be enough to reduce his physical ability to hurt you. After penetrating whatever clothing the person is wearing, you're counting on the bullet having enough energy to expand, and produce a wound channel where the guys does more than say "owie". Carrying a .22lr for SD in the winter time is absurd considering the amount of clothing people wear.
Caveat: If she's a shooter, familiar with firearms in general, and actually goes out and practices, then forget the following... but feel free to apply it to anybody else who it fits.
"Giving" a person a gun for self-defense simply shouldn't happen. A person should make a choice that they need a gun for self-defense, and be the catalyst for making it happen. A person who was "given" a gun for self defense will draw the weapon someday hoping to "scare off" the bad guy, and subsequently be unwilling to pull the trigger... or will be so f'ed up during the event that they won't hit anything, or drop the gun, or close their eyes, or forget that they unloaded it "for safety"... or whatever and end up getting killed just to spite the concerned person who gave it to them.
In a panic, when a person is staring death in the face and reaches for their weapon... if it doesn't go bang the first time they pull the trigger, they'll be in a very bad spot. A revolver eliminates a large number of failure points in getting that weapon pointed in the right direction and making it go bang.
The advantage to a revolver is that there is no safety, no jams, no magazine, no "cocking", etc... For a person who intends to carry in public, but NEVER practices, a revolver is the way to go.
If she must have a .22lr because she has to have the lowest recoil possible, then S&W/Taurus/Ruger all sell 8/9-shot .22lr/.22mag revolver in their small-frame 2" snubbies. A set of CT grips and Winchester PDX 22mag would be my first choice. For .22lr, just go with CCI Mini-mag HP's. A GRIP-ACTIVATED LASER IS A MUST HAVE!!!
However, if she can handle a semi-auto and trust her life to her skills, then a steup up in caliber is just plain necessary. I'd highly suggest looking into some of the medium-frame semi-auto's in .380acp... the CZ83 is a tried-and-true police issue sidearm, and not being a pocket-pistol, will soften the recoil enough that she shouldn't object.
#3248
This is how ridiculous this **** has gotten. At first, I thought maybe Para made these out of some crazy unobtanium and that they were expensive to begin with... but no. I found a bunch of google hits for these exact stripped lowers for $115. Kinda makes me rething all the good stuff I've said about CDNN lately. ******* retarded hysteria bullshit.
When this **** is over in a few months, and the prices have dropped through the floor, I'm gonna start scooping up a PMAGS and a stripped lowers and standby for the next hysteria. **** me I still can't believe people were getting $80ea for PMAGS a few weeks ago.
When this **** is over in a few months, and the prices have dropped through the floor, I'm gonna start scooping up a PMAGS and a stripped lowers and standby for the next hysteria. **** me I still can't believe people were getting $80ea for PMAGS a few weeks ago.
#3249
The industry is just as afraid as us. They are making hay while the sun is shining at the cost of their customers. But people stupid enough to pay these prices. I will not. I will not pay more than .50 for brass .223 or $20 for a 30round mag.
I'm keeping track of the companies gouging now and I will NOT deal with them in the future. So far my list is CTD (gouging on pmags and ammo), surplusammo ($50 pmags), and now looks like I will never buy a Para part. MidwayUSA and Sportamansguide are both now getting my business.
I'm keeping track of the companies gouging now and I will NOT deal with them in the future. So far my list is CTD (gouging on pmags and ammo), surplusammo ($50 pmags), and now looks like I will never buy a Para part. MidwayUSA and Sportamansguide are both now getting my business.
#3251
Cheaper Than Dirt jacked up their prices the DAY OF Sandy Hook. There was no scarcity to it at that point. They saw their online traffic jump and the items that were selling and took advantage of that. I can understand raising prices. But 400-500%? Nope. Not getting my business, now or ever again.
#3252
Cheaper Than Dirt jacked up their prices the DAY OF Sandy Hook. There was no scarcity to it at that point. They saw their online traffic jump and the items that were selling and took advantage of that. I can understand raising prices. But 400-500%? Nope. Not getting my business, now or ever again.
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Cheaper Than Dirt jacked up their prices the DAY OF Sandy Hook. There was no scarcity to it at that point. They saw their online traffic jump and the items that were selling and took advantage of that. I can understand raising prices. But 400-500%? Nope. Not getting my business, now or ever again.
#3255
I have just been contacted by the ACLJ asking me to sign a petition. Apparently the president is swearing to use presidential mandates to abolish our second amendment rights. ACLJ (american center for law and justice) is the opposite of the ACLU.
I sighned the petition of course .
What the heck is our country coming too?
I sighned the petition of course .
What the heck is our country coming too?
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Anyone ever thought of using a blank in the chamber followed by regular ammo to a) use as a warning shot without fear of ricochet or bullet coming back down and b) for incase a bad guy gets your gun. I'm thinking for b) the blank will not chamber another round and this will give you plenty of time to either run or fight while he's looking at the piece trying to figure out whats going on. Just a thought I had. Never heard of this so I'm assuming other people have thought it through and there's a flaw that I haven't thought of.
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Anyone ever thought of using a blank in the chamber followed by regular ammo to a) use as a warning shot without fear of ricochet or bullet coming back down and b) for incase a bad guy gets your gun. I'm thinking for b) the blank will not chamber another round and this will give you plenty of time to either run or fight while he's looking at the piece trying to figure out whats going on. Just a thought I had. Never heard of this so I'm assuming other people have thought it through and there's a flaw that I haven't thought of.
Sounds like a completely terrible idea to me, no offense.