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Old 08-24-2011, 09:59 PM   #361
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Admittedly, I like the Sons of Guns show. The content might be poorly scripted, the acting might be terrible, the daughter is really ******* annoying, and the Kris guy is like a bull in a china shop.. What I believe the intention of the show appears to be working, they've got like 12 million fans. I feel it might give a more positive impression to the general ignorant public about firearms, which I appreciate.

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http://www.redjacketfirearms.com/ind...emart&Itemid=6



Almost $2000 for this rifle? Are you ******* serious??

Had a really slow day and decided to spend 20 minutes cruising manufacturers websites for parts of this rifle and this is what I came up with. Aside some very minor parts (delta pack and other small parts) this is a duplicate of the rifle shown for sale by the shop:

Daniel Defense 16" BBL, A2 front sight and gas tube $355
Les Baer Flattop w/out forward assist $112.00
Daniel Defense complete bolt carrier Group $169
Bravo Company charging handle $44.95
Bushmaster Mil Spec ejection port cover, latch, rod, spring, and cclip $12.95
Hiperform Carbon Fiber handguard $110
Daniel Defense rear sight $70.00
Troy Industries BattleRail 2" $15.00
Daniel Defense complete lower receiver w/magpul MOE buttstock $485.00

$1353.90 is the total I came up with, and thats buying **** at "retail" prices right from the manufactures.


The group of parts I came up with would involve installing ejection port cover, the barrel on the upper receiver, checking headspace, installing hand guard, attach the light rail and sling stud to the hand guard, install rear sight, stroke your **** with the bolt carrier group, place in rifle with charging handle, place upper receiver assembly on the lower receiver assembly (which is already 100% ready to rock out of the box.. no assy required) insert magazine and let it rip.

They're charging $550.00 for that? I'm in the wrong ******* business...
My dad's old smith makes these guys look like the Faeflora of the industry. I believe he's still in the business but you gotta pay to play. If anyone wants his information, pm me.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:26 PM   #362
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So does anyone here have experiance taking gunsmithing classes? Is there any real benifit to taking the class since it isn't a degree of any kind? Id love to eventually get out of car sales and living in the middle of all the major gun company's and 5 minutes from sig(who's always looking for gunsmiths for their custom shop) it could be something to look into
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you won't become rich and true craftsmen are few and far between these days.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:22 AM   #364
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you won't become rich and true craftsmen are few and far between these days.
This is basically what my thoughts were.

I'd love to take a smith course if I could find time. Personally I just sit down with a diagram and my tools and see what I can do. Building or breaking down firearms isn't rocket science. I want to know the actual gunsmith trade of modifications. No, not buying a Tapco trigger to drop in, improve what the manufacture included with the gun..
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:24 PM   #366
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LOL!

You draw that in MS Paint?
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it was posted on k awhile back
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Ithaca 16 gauge thin wall double barrel

Remington model 10
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today I shot a great weapon



just kidding, it sucked

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Wut is this??





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Wut is this??





Broken link, bitchass
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Wut is this??





looks like someoen is gonna stamp his own receiver then think he's so savvy and print a stencil off the Internet then get caught and spend the next 20 years in club fed
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Nah, no stencil. I do plan on taking this to a local shop and have them scan it then laser cut a few hundred of them for me.
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Nah, no stencil. I do plan on taking this to a local shop and have them scan it then laser cut a few hundred of them for me.
I'm pretty close to trading some bullshit for some AK74s
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Not including tools I bought, I'll have less than 300$ invested in a fully compliant rifle. Ran across a deal today I couldn't pass up.


FYI: Cabela's has their russian Herter's .223 55gr fmj's on sale for $3.99/box of 20. Cheapest .223 I've seen in years, going to buy 20 boxes tomorrow.
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Whats the deal with the stencil, is it illegal or not? Is elesjuan going to the big house?
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I heard from this guy once that there are stencils for stamped AK receivers that allow you to drop in full auto trigger kits
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The stencil is to punch a hole for the auto sear hole pin. Not going to have that hole in my receivers.

I was curious what the difference in trigger group was between auto and semi-automatic. Ended up reading a pdf about said stencil. Kinda wish I hadn't searched for that.. Its out there now. *shrug* Possession of a rifle with parts installed is whats illegal, not the knowledge.
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Thuper big bore:


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just sold my evo manifold, $825 in the bank. gonna buy me a new ratchet or two.
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