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Old 09-29-2014, 10:35 AM   #41
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You absolutely must get some videos for us.

And I beg for at least one of them to be of the speedo/tach as you wring the car out through a few gears.

Do it for science and entertainment
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Now invest in 4x4 suspension to get around those Philly roads and you're golden! LOL
They actually just re-paved all the local spots where people drag

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You absolutely must get some videos for us.

And I beg for at least one of them to be of the speedo/tach as you wring the car out through a few gears.

Do it for science and entertainment
I've done that video before but I definitely need to keep both hands on the wheel now ha. It will be like the one Soviet has on youtube. I've watched it countless times haha

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Old 09-30-2014, 03:12 PM   #43
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So now that the car is finally tuned and makes power it got me wondering. I'm not planning on selling the car anytime soon, but was wondering what my adventures and investments are worth on the current market.

If I was going to sell the car as it sits with all of the mods mentioned and tuned how much could I expect to get realistically? I see what bolt-on MSMs sell for but this is a bit different.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:44 PM   #44
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I paid $12.5 k for mine with the hardtop so I would say yours is probably in that ballpark. Tough thing is that it's not like this kind of car goes up for sale very often. Yours has some parts mine doesn't (diff goodies, EFR) but the absurdflow setup is sought after and hardtop.

Do you still have PS and AC?
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I paid $12.5 k for mine with the hardtop so I would say yours is probably in that ballpark. Tough thing is that it's not like this kind of car goes up for sale very often. Yours has some parts mine doesn't (diff goodies, EFR) but the absurdflow setup is sought after and hardtop.

Do you still have PS and AC?
I do, as well as full trunk and interior. I'd consider closer to 20k reasonable cause its got almost that much in aftermarket parts plus the labor plus the car itself.

It's funny hearing what you paid for yours and seeing how much people are trying to get for ones that are way more stock. Looks like it will stay with me and hopefully into the next generation
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I didn't say it would be good news. You'd have to find a nutcase to pay $20k IMO.

Then again, I think your car is considerably more sorted than mine.

Always best to return to stock before you sell.
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You'd maybe get $10k in my honest opinion. Considering I've been seeing low mile stock MSM's only going for $11k-$13k. Ones with minor bolt-ons go for considerably less. I think it would take quite a good amount of time to find a buyer who wouldn't lowball the **** out of you and knows what went into the car. The market for built miatas is super small.

I think if I sold my car I would probably ask $9k and settle for $8k and a quick sale hopefully at $7.5k. I paid $12.5 out the door for it 5 years ago bone stock. But I've literally seen 3 clean msm's in the area sit for months at steal prices with no bites other than drift kids who only have a budget for $4k.
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^I think you're pretty low here sir. Most MSMs I've seen listed under $9k either have a ton of miles or are not as clean as they look in the pics.

Edit: PS I'll give you $8k for your car.
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If it lasts, and I think it should, mine goes to my son in VA. By the time that happens, it will be old enough to not have to pass pollution inspection.

I'd rather give it to family than to a stranger. Then again, I plan to be dead when it leaves my possession, because I cannot imagine the fun wearing off.

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Yea I know modded cars are worth less but I assumed it got to a point where it increased in value a little. None of my stuff is crazy expensive but it's all fairly high end. Putting te car back to stock at this point is more trouble than it's worth and most stock parts have been sold. With this new information, there's no way I'd take 12k unless I had to get emergency funds together like medical bills. I even told my girl when we have a kid, it's staying. I kept the baby seat brackets ;-)

I paid 14k for the car in 09 with 35k miles bone stock. Not including the parts I've installed and sold the current parts list retails for ~17k. There's no way I would lose almost $20,000. I see an appeal in buying a fully completed car, but I also understand a buyers weariness buying someone else's project cause you never know. Too many memories with it that are priceless like chasing 100+ exotics in NY state when my buddy was using it for a camera car. The rich people were even pretty receptive to it and asked questions. More fun for me! :-)
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Yup. You might could pull closer to $15k with the right buyer, but who knows. It all depends on who is looking. When I was looking I would have happily paid $13k for your car, and more if I could have afforded it. You might find someone who just has to have it and would give $15k or so, but I doubt you'd find anyone willing to give any more than that.

Just my 2 cents.
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Sure can't touch the performance for even close to $20,000 though hah. If I was on the other side of the fence and was looking at a car that's making double the factory power and has nothing original anymore I'd probably think $15,000 was a stretch too. It's different for me on this side because I had to put all the money and time into it, and got to assemble the motor at one point. It's just awesome to make something that can do what these cars do.
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You'd have to lose an insane amount of money to move a car like this. Period.
They simply don't sell well, no matter what anyone thinks.
Which is why you shouldn't even be thinking of stuff like that
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So what exactly makes these EFR turbos better than the others. I understand the wheel is light and balanced better than most, but I just kind of hopped on the wagon and took everyone's word for it. Educate me plz
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So what exactly makes these EFR turbos better than the others. I understand the wheel is light and balanced better than most, but I just kind of hopped on the wagon and took everyone's word for it. Educate me plz
new tech?

Integrated bov, internal wastegate

^^ No extra piping for bov, actually given a "function" to spit back into the turbine. Internal wastegate, less complicated, less pipe, can be actually used for high boost with no issues as far as I know.

vbandalltehtings (more progress lately with efr v-band/tial news... but imo, no iwg no care)

small turbo spin up, big turbo flow.
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fancy new wheel design and material
much bigger and stronger bearings
new tech comp and turbine housings with really cool features like integrated bov and a well flowing internal wg

its a nice turbo. I'm sure you're not disappointed, its a pretty solid band wagon you hopped onto
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My one letdown is I got mine during the period where Investment Casting was just too slow and I don't think BW could keep up with the demand. What's so special about the wastegate? Is it the angle that it merges into the rest of the flow at?
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Drive it like you stole it. Your car thinks you did (flashing immobilizer light) Car sounds great.
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The CEL is coming on for "knock" but my tuner said he took multiple logs and saw nothing resembling knock or detonation, nor have I had any problems or noises appear. He thinks the sensitivity for the sensor might need adjustment, he didn't want to set it to the point where it wouldn't pick up actual knock. Better safe than sorry, and I appreciate that.
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