The 18psi MS PNP-Pro questions thread (Attention DIYAutotune)
03-17-2015, 04:38 PM
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Update - you may use any of the extra analog inputs; just change the O2 input port in the software. This was done so you don't have to unplug any of the stock O2s.
VTCS is not supported as it's purely an emissions thing. If some form of masochism requires you to try this anyway, you may wire any of the unused high current or PWM outputs on the expansion connector to the VTCS solenoid.
VTCS is not supported as it's purely an emissions thing. If some form of masochism requires you to try this anyway, you may wire any of the unused high current or PWM outputs on the expansion connector to the VTCS solenoid.
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03-18-2015, 08:51 AM
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So Matt, out of all the wires in the 3 ecu plugs, the MS can't control the VTCS without extra wiring?
I'm assuming VICS is wired with the MSPNP2 and Pro though, yes? That's much more of a functional device.
I'm assuming VICS is wired with the MSPNP2 and Pro though, yes? That's much more of a functional device.
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03-18-2015, 09:03 AM
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I'm assuming VICS is wired with the MSPNP2 and Pro though, yes? That's much more of a functional device.
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03-30-2015, 11:48 PM
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more questions:
does the oem clutch switch/neutral switch not interact with the MS?
do you have to wire in something manually?
I can't get launch control to work, or "enable". and now that I look around the settings, there is no "clutch" button on the bottom of the dashboard and I def don't see any "clutch in " inputs.
advice?
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I've read the manual like 10 times now, and this statement could not be harder to understand in regards to my question:
does the oem clutch switch/neutral switch not interact with the MS?
do you have to wire in something manually?
I can't get launch control to work, or "enable". and now that I look around the settings, there is no "clutch" button on the bottom of the dashboard and I def don't see any "clutch in " inputs.
advice?
*edit:
I've read the manual like 10 times now, and this statement could not be harder to understand in regards to my question:
Launch control / Flat Shift:
Launch control may be run with either the factory clutch switch or an external switch. If you are using an external switch for launch control, connect the pin labeled "Launch Control Input" connector to a switch, and connect the other side of the switch to a chassis ground. Launch control will be active when the switch is closed.
Flat shift requires the use of the clutch switch. It enables a different rev limiter when your foot is on the clutch so you can shift while holding the throttle to the floor.
Launch control may be run with either the factory clutch switch or an external switch. If you are using an external switch for launch control, connect the pin labeled "Launch Control Input" connector to a switch, and connect the other side of the switch to a chassis ground. Launch control will be active when the switch is closed.
Flat shift requires the use of the clutch switch. It enables a different rev limiter when your foot is on the clutch so you can shift while holding the throttle to the floor.
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03-31-2015, 12:53 AM
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more questions:
does the oem clutch switch/neutral switch not interact with the MS?
do you have to wire in something manually?
I can't get launch control to work, or "enable". and now that I look around the settings, there is no "clutch" button on the bottom of the dashboard and I def don't see any "clutch in " inputs.
advice?
*edit:
I've read the manual like 10 times now, and this statement could not be harder to understand in regards to my question:
does the oem clutch switch/neutral switch not interact with the MS?
do you have to wire in something manually?
I can't get launch control to work, or "enable". and now that I look around the settings, there is no "clutch" button on the bottom of the dashboard and I def don't see any "clutch in " inputs.
advice?
*edit:
I've read the manual like 10 times now, and this statement could not be harder to understand in regards to my question:
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03-31-2015, 11:54 AM
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Are you testing it with the car on, as in engine running? Curly ran into that issue recently.
I'm sure DIY will chime in but from the documentation it looks like it needs to be wired in manually. Without any pinout or wiring diagrams its hard to tell anything else.
I'm sure DIY will chime in but from the documentation it looks like it needs to be wired in manually. Without any pinout or wiring diagrams its hard to tell anything else.
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03-31-2015, 11:59 AM
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yes.
All the inputs in the drop down in the LC menu look like the manual ones on the optional rear connector, which really surprises me since the OEM wiring already connects the clutch switch to the MS. On previous units it was just a matter of "enable LC" and set the rpm and go.
All the inputs in the drop down in the LC menu look like the manual ones on the optional rear connector, which really surprises me since the OEM wiring already connects the clutch switch to the MS. On previous units it was just a matter of "enable LC" and set the rpm and go.
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03-31-2015, 12:00 PM
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Looking at old documentation (Gen1/2) they mention a jumper to choose between the front input and the stock switch. Either they haven't updated the new documentation about a jumper or it doesn't exist.
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03-31-2015, 12:15 PM
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Only ones I've seen work correctly is 1 of 3 MSPNP1 installs on 1.6s, and a recent MS2e from Rev.
For everything else, there's mastercard.
No wait, there's wiring. MS to toggle switch to clutch switch to ground. Loop wiring for clutch switch, which is nice anyways cause then it'll start without the clutch in. Or buy 949s 3D printed plug which is a little more secure. FM's won't work in this application obviously.
For everything else, there's mastercard.
No wait, there's wiring. MS to toggle switch to clutch switch to ground. Loop wiring for clutch switch, which is nice anyways cause then it'll start without the clutch in. Or buy 949s 3D printed plug which is a little more secure. FM's won't work in this application obviously.
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03-31-2015, 12:17 PM
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Did Nials ever work? Wasn't his problem that it was stuck in launch control mode? Which could be a broken neutral switch, or something. Because launch control for me is active when the clutch is in, OR the car is in neutral.
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03-31-2015, 12:21 PM
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Yeah, which meant we were activating it externally only, clutch/netural switch were having no effect. Laz's original MSPNP1 and 1.6 was the only setup we ever had it working with the stock wiring, and we've got no idea how.
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