60-2 crank and optical pickup on PNP
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Originally Posted by cjernigan
That is basically the same as the 99s crank pulley assembly.
Replace 11-414 with the timing wheel and remove 404 and 408 they don't exist on a 99.
Replace 11-414 with the timing wheel and remove 404 and 408 they don't exist on a 99.
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Hey- if they've got a longnose 1.6 at the yard you're going to (we don't locally) could you buy the whole pulley assembly for me to use as a reference? Ideally, I'd like everything from the timing belt gear all the way to the outer washer with the four bolts, including the big bolt that holds the package to the crank. (I hate to keep using you as a parts bitch, but our local yard is slim pickens and you appear to have a goldmine on your hands)
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For the moment, I am moving forward building one for myself. I think I've figured out how to do it with 2.75" diameter 6061 stock which will fit my lathe. The metal should be in tomorrow, along with some longer bolts. (Have you ever tried to find class 10.9 M6x70 bolts locally? It's impossible.) The sensor is going to be a Ford part, either a mid '90s 1.9 Escort or a mid '90s V6 Taurus. They are electrically the same but have a different mounting scheme. I've ordered one of each to see which fits best.
On a happy note, two packages arrived today. The first is a ChinaCo Model 2090 40Mhz 2-channel USB-based PC oscilloscope. I got tired of fighting with the old Tektronix TDS-420A that I've been using. It was a truly awesome scope in its day (even used they sell for up to $2,000) but it's absolutely friggin' massive, it won't run on batteries, the floppy drive is dead, and it doesn't do logging. The new one, despite costing a paltry $240, seems to work pretty well. The software is pretty easy to use, it seems accurate, and it even came with a very nice set of 1x/10x probes that, apart from having only a 60Mhz rating, are damn near indistinguishable from a $300 set of Tek P3010s.
The other big ticket item is my new crankwheel from DIY. It's the little one- only four inches. I'd have preferred a 5" wheel, but couldn't find one anywhere (in the US) in 36-1 and from an electrical standpoint I didn't want to deal with 60-2. Once I saw it, however, I couldn't believe how small it was:
On the plus side, it should clear my BOV (which is right next to the pulley) with no problems and it'll hopefully make fabricating the sensor mount just a bit easier. We'll see when the time comes how that goes. I'm just hoping I can get a clean signal out of such small teeth. Once the hub is semi-complete, I'll spin the wheel on the lathe while scoping the sensor to make sure I've got a usable signal before proceeding further.
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
MS1/Extra doesn't gain any improvement from a 60-2 over a 36-1. For an MSPNP, you'd need an optical or Hall effect sensor rather than a VR sensor.
Wait a sec... Matt, would I be crazy if I ground all but three of the teeth off the wheel I just bought from you? I mean, how critical is the balancing situation? Nah... Stupid idea.
Insofar as the Hall vs. VR situation, I am planning to build the VR circuit for my system in an external box. The primary driver in my case is to make it easier to probe and modify, but adapting this concept for others would permit MSPNP owners to use a traditional VR sensor, simply by using this circuit as an external logic-level converter. They'd have to snip one wire in the factory harness (CKP), and splice into two others (VREF and GND).
Also, FWIW, I'm pretty sure the stock NB crank and cam sensors use open collector output, just like the NA CAS.
Originally Posted by Stealth97
I dont want to be a gunea pig, but if a "kit" comes out of it I definitely want in.
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