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Old 03-11-2012, 03:16 PM
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I've been fighting this for a long time and never got to a solution so I think its time to make a thread about it.

My target AFRs in boost were set to 11.5ish, and after some tuning I would see 11.2-11.4. Not bad. However, these values have moved all on their own.

In boost sometimes I will see 11.2, sometimes 10.9, and sometimes 10.4, which is way richer than I want to be. It doesn't really seem dependent on weather conditions, I have no leads as to why this is happening. This is all without ever even plugging my laptop into the MS. I have not changed anything. I'm going to retune tonight and see what happens over the next couple of days. I would say this is not an LC1 problem, I've gone through new sensors, rewiring, complete removal and reinstallation over the past 3 years and my AFR's never stayed stable for more than a couple weeks.

My question is: Has this happened to anyone else, if so, what did you do to fix this?
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Old 03-11-2012, 03:25 PM
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Sounds like you have some compensation messing with it (air temp, coolant, MAP, etc) or your fuel pressure is changing (but it would have to change a lot to do that). Take some logs and compare.
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Sounds like you have some compensation messing with it (air temp, coolant, MAP, etc) or your fuel pressure is changing (but it would have to change a lot to do that). Take some logs and compare.
I still have not figured out how IAT and CLT compensation works. What would I be changing to make this problem go away?

Here are my settings.
How many people here are running the clt advance? I thought mine was on but I guess not.
I guess I'm gonna run some logs later, and then run VEAL after that.
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Wow. Well I never remember my logs looking this bad.

Observe/opinions?? Ignore the beginning I guess, I was stuck in an awkward traffic situation.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:44 PM
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Anyone? I've spent 3 hours searching and fiddling with stuff and have gotten nowhere.
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I can't make sense of the log, there is no TPS, lambda, and whats up with the sudden drop in boost during the accel event at 3111 sec?
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That may have been me letting off, either that or overboost protection. I'm not really sure...

Yea, no vTPS. I was looking at AFR, not lambda.
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