MEGAsquirt A place to collectively sort out this megasquirt gizmo

vTPS HAAAAALP!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-27-2013, 12:56 PM
  #1  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default vTPS HAAAAALP!

All right. I'm having a really weird issue with my '94 vTPS.

It configures fine in tuner studio, although a bit odd - 830 to 980ish range from min pedal to max. Different than what my reading indicates it should be, but the numbers are 100% repeatable. It configures with no hiccups at all.

Then I get absolutely no readings from the TPS option in logs or in tuner studio.

.....wut? I'm over my head here.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 12:57 PM
  #2  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

TP is the log you are looking for.
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:01 PM
  #3  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default


But seriously. If the TPS configures fine in tuner studio, why the hell am I having problems reading the TPS signal?
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:06 PM
  #4  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

okay, I looked at your log and see what you're saying.

please help me help you: your car is a 90-93 with a 1.8L TB?
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:08 PM
  #5  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Yes. I have a 91 with a 94 TB.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:10 PM
  #6  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

how EX-*******-ACTLY did you wire it?
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:12 PM
  #7  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
how EX-*******-ACTLY did you wire it?
First post in https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...-93-car-36271/
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:22 PM
  #8  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

I dont believe you wired in the way that Reverant most likely built your harness; the most comon way the MS is wired on a 1.6L for tps is:

(watch me blow your mind with details)

5vref to the RED wire on 1N
TPS signal wire on the LG/W wire on 2L
the BlK/G remains a ground from the main sensor ground point.

The way Joe describes with dated info, over 4 years ago, to wire for a MSI is to:

TPS signal to the RED wire on 1N
5vref to the LG/W wire on 2L
the BlK/G remains a ground from the main sensor ground point.


So that's a big issue, and probably is why you log shows the ADC always around 900 or so, as you've wired the 5vref directly to the MS TPS signal input.

You need to flip the red and ltgn/w wires around at your TPS connector and enjoy TPS readings.


It would probably do you some justice to confirm this with the person who built your MS, but I'm almost postive that's the issue and reverant puts the TPS sig on 2L, not 1N. Post #22 in your same thread is pretty baller...
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:23 PM
  #9  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Oh hell. Messaging Reverant, thanks Brainy.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:27 PM
  #10  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

or just reverse those two wires, recalibrate and see what happens

it's also possible that rev install a pull-down resistor to preven the signal from going high and causing the TPS to sit at 100% when you're driving without a vTPS installed. I do this in my 9093 builds.
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:28 PM
  #11  
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Reverant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 5,977
Total Cats: 356
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
5vref to the RED wire on 1N
TPS signal wire on the LG/W wire on 2L
the BlK/G remains a ground from the main sensor ground point.
This is correct.
Reverant is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:32 PM
  #12  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Damnit.

Thank you Brainy and Rev.

Sometimes my habit of searching gets me in interesting situations :(.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:37 PM
  #13  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

you should of read post #22.
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:44 PM
  #14  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

Brain and Rev PWNT this thread.
18psi is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:44 PM
  #15  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
you should of read post #22.
So, I should have tried wiring at random listed in that thread until I found something that worked?

Braaainnyyyyy, that doesn't sound very smart to me!

But seriously bro, thanks. Going in in a few minutes to pick up some soldering supplies, then onwards! SOLDERING HO!
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:53 PM
  #16  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

how is a diagram that shows exactly what colors to wire where when going from a 1.6L to a 1.8LTPS random?
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 01:58 PM
  #17  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

ban him



lulz
18psi is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 02:34 PM
  #18  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Ruh Roh Rhaggy.

TPS now configures from 70 to 700 (min to max)

Still no TPS position reading in my goddamn tuner studio.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 02:35 PM
  #19  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

run more boost.

that will fix it.
18psi is offline  
Old 03-27-2013, 02:41 PM
  #20  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Okay.

Here's the problem:

If I get in and turn on the ignition, the TPS is fine for the first 30 seconds or so.

Then I get a red light in my Tuner Studio dashboard that says "TPS Fault", and I get no readings from the TPS anymore.

What do?
blaen99 is offline  


Quick Reply: vTPS HAAAAALP!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:48 PM.