Need help, freshly built DIYPNP crank but no fire (edit : Working now!)
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Need help, freshly built DIYPNP crank but no fire (edit : Working now!)
Car want to start but no fire. Charge the battery overnight and same thing in the morning.
Don't really know what to look for to be honest, maybe some expert could shime in.
BTW using stock IAT and injectors for now till it start at least...
Car was working really good with OE ECU and Link piggyback.
Don't really know what to look for to be honest, maybe some expert could shime in.
BTW using stock IAT and injectors for now till it start at least...
Car was working really good with OE ECU and Link piggyback.
Last edited by joyrider; 05-25-2012 at 03:42 PM.
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your CLT and MAT are off, was the car running prior to this log?
it's not pulling enough RPMs to fire over, I'm betting your msq is setup for 300rpm? youre barely making 170rpms.
the last crank, were you manipulating the throttle?
can you take a screenshot of a composite log during maybe 10-20 seconds of cranking.
it's not pulling enough RPMs to fire over, I'm betting your msq is setup for 300rpm? youre barely making 170rpms.
the last crank, were you manipulating the throttle?
can you take a screenshot of a composite log during maybe 10-20 seconds of cranking.
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Sorry for the lack of information but I had to leave for hospital with my pregnant wife. Everything's good on this side.
Okay now back on topic. Here's my .msq and some details :
Car is a 2000(track car only) PS but no AC, Begi turbo manifold (some AVO and Begi pipes), GT2560 @ 7psi, stock engine, stock injectors for now (460CC waiting), using stock IAT (GM unit waiting as well), innovate MTX-L. Do you need more details ?
Car wasn't running prior to the log, it was the first try of getting the car start with the DIYPNP.
I put the TPS to 100% to cut the injectors on the last crank because the smell of gas was intense.
I can try to take such a log (composite log) while cranking.
BTW I follow the procedures from http://www.diyautotune.com/diypnp/ap...0-18bp-mt.html
and from Brain post over miataforumz.
Okay now back on topic. Here's my .msq and some details :
Car is a 2000(track car only) PS but no AC, Begi turbo manifold (some AVO and Begi pipes), GT2560 @ 7psi, stock engine, stock injectors for now (460CC waiting), using stock IAT (GM unit waiting as well), innovate MTX-L. Do you need more details ?
Car wasn't running prior to the log, it was the first try of getting the car start with the DIYPNP.
I put the TPS to 100% to cut the injectors on the last crank because the smell of gas was intense.
I can try to take such a log (composite log) while cranking.
BTW I follow the procedures from http://www.diyautotune.com/diypnp/ap...0-18bp-mt.html
and from Brain post over miataforumz.
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did you calibrate the TPS, MAT, CLT, and AFR? cuase TPS is all over the place in the log on the last crank, so it never hit fuelcut.
but yeah it's too rich gotta figure out why it's injecting 34ms pw during cranking.
but yeah it's too rich gotta figure out why it's injecting 34ms pw during cranking.
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Have you checked all fuel and spark outputs in test mode to make sure that everything is functional?
Do you have the sequential fuel mod kit installed?
Also your battery is very weak. 10V dipping to 7.x when cranking. That's not good.
Do you have the sequential fuel mod kit installed?
Also your battery is very weak. 10V dipping to 7.x when cranking. That's not good.
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I smell it, it way too rich but again I'm using what I found from DIY as basemap.
Here's a CSV while cranking.
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One thing regarding CLT, I used those from DIY
For the CLT, use the following table with a bias resistor setting of 2490 ohms:
Temperature F / C Resistance In Ohms
14 / -10 9000
68 / 20 2500
176 / 80 320
And found this one from Brain (http://www.miataforumz.com/showthrea...=4523#post4523)
EDIT 5.0L one so I should be okay.
For the CLT, use the following table with a bias resistor setting of 2490 ohms:
Temperature F / C Resistance In Ohms
14 / -10 9000
68 / 20 2500
176 / 80 320
And found this one from Brain (http://www.miataforumz.com/showthrea...=4523#post4523)
EDIT 5.0L one so I should be okay.
Last edited by joyrider; 05-24-2012 at 08:06 PM.
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As saw a thread done by Ben for his turbo 99 (almost same tubo setup as mine) and he does install those 4.
http://www.mx5atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4308
http://www.mx5atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4308
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Yes Ben I found a problem this morning, old Link ECU connection was interfering with ignition.Had to redo some wiring in the car.
Car starts now. I did a log but end it quickly because my AFR was really high. Wondering if it's normal or not.
I will put noise filtering off, don't know why it's on.
Car starts now. I did a log but end it quickly because my AFR was really high. Wondering if it's normal or not.
I will put noise filtering off, don't know why it's on.
Last edited by joyrider; 05-25-2012 at 09:39 AM.
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depends what the idle valve is being driven at through the MS...touching the screw is a bad idea when it's the MS that controls the idle. those settings MUST be tweak and fine tuned for your car.
its going to sit at the same value for 6 seconds before the PID code will even start to play with the idle speed according to your msq.
your logs shows it sitting at the max PWM% range setup in the parameters, so something was keeping it from kicking into closed loop.
its going to sit at the same value for 6 seconds before the PID code will even start to play with the idle speed according to your msq.
your logs shows it sitting at the max PWM% range setup in the parameters, so something was keeping it from kicking into closed loop.
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Brain can i do the idle speed adjustment procedure ? Put a jumper between terminal TEN and ground or fixed the timing from Tunerstudio just like syncing the CAS ?
Found that to set the idle valve correctly: http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=46823
Got VE analyze live running for few times. Wondering if I should set cell change resistance easy or normal to begin with or play with the max cell % or value change.
Logs are too big to upload
Found that to set the idle valve correctly: http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=46823
Got VE analyze live running for few times. Wondering if I should set cell change resistance easy or normal to begin with or play with the max cell % or value change.
Logs are too big to upload