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sigh...Ben used Trickery on me; ordered. lolz.
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Originally Posted by y8s
how many VVTs does it make?
Infinite, at the very least.

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Ordered mine a few minutes ago. From GA it should be here by this weekend.
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we should get them Thursday.
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Ben:

Is there a plan to release with the 3.57 board? What kind of cost will this add?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Braineack
we should get them Thursday.
So buttsex and install day on saturday?
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At my house by myself so I'm the first to run it...yes.
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Originally Posted by shuiend
So buttsex and install day on saturday?

God, wouldn't it be great if I had my spare MS-I handy so in case anything happened I had another ECU to run on...
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Originally Posted by y8s
how many VVTs does it make?
Add the expander board and we have 6 general purpose PWM outputs for cool stuff including planned VVT control.

We had the VVT box (standalone closed loop controller) on the dyno friday before last, and it did awesome. So long as everything continues to move as positively as possible, I don't think it will be too much longer before the code makes it to MS3.

The expander hardware was revised based on feedback and is hopefully going through its last round of testing before being released. The expander is projected to be right around the $100 mark.
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expander + ms3 + updated code = VVT control? Or is the standalone box still req'd. I'd think a PWM PID output would be sufficient as long as you can tell it what the inputs are.
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Originally Posted by y8s
expander + ms3 + updated code = VVT control?
Check

Or is the standalone box still req'd. I'd think a PWM PID output would be sufficient as long as you can tell it what the inputs are.
The standalone box is a separate product that will give VVT capability to practically any platform. I really can't release any details, but it's a very clever critter.
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Originally Posted by Ben
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The standalone box is a separate product that will give VVT capability to practically any platform. I really can't release any details, but it's a very clever critter.
When is this VVT box going to be available (before or after the MS3 is updated to control it?)?
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
Ben:

Is there a plan to release with the 3.57 board? What kind of cost will this add?

Thanks!
As in you're looking for a fully assembled unit? Should be added to the site very soon--but of course it would take a few mods for the miata. Send me an email if you want a quote on a custom built MS3 ECU. websales@diyautotune.com

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When is this VVT box going to be available (before or after the MS3 is updated to control it?)?
I wish I could give you a solid answer, but I really don't know.
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Originally Posted by Ben
As in you're looking for a fully assembled unit? Should be added to the site very soon--but of course it would take a few mods for the miata. Send me an email if you want a quote on a custom built MS3 ECU. websales@diyautotune.com
Well I'm totally cool with your price of the MS3 based off the 3.0 build it yourself board, but I've been thinking about getting a 3.57/MS2 for a while but still on the fence. Haven't had *knock on wood* any problems with the 2.2 I built but still thinking...
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I thought this was never gonna come out so I went a different route

Any plans for PNP for 01-05?
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Originally Posted by dgmorr
I thought this was never gonna come out so I went a different route

Any plans for PNP for 01-05?
While we haven't committed to building one yet, I will say that connector was a bigger nuisance to feed its data into the CAD software than any other connector we've looked at using for a DIYPNP. (Particularly since I'm using the 5 connector version so we can run it on certain Toyotas, too.) We'll probably want to have some other supporting mod kits out first though.
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Originally Posted by Ben
We had the VVT box (standalone closed loop controller) on the dyno friday before last, and it did awesome. So long as everything continues to move as positively as possible, I don't think it will be too much longer before the code makes it to MS3.
The guy who wrote the code for that still owes me some data on transient response before I'm willing to add that capability to ms3, and at this point we're at feature freeze for the 1.0 code, so it'll go in at 1.1 assuming the data is good.

At this point I'm also not 100% sure we'd end up using his exact code, or just end up making it work the same/similarly. Depends on licensing and other considerations.

Either way some form of continuous VVT control will make it in.

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Originally Posted by muythaibxr
The guy who wrote the code for that still owes me some data on transient response before I'm willing to add that code, and at this point we're at feature freeze for the 1.0 code, so it'll go in at 1.1 assuming the data is good.

Ken
Let me know if there's any data I can send you from the dyno session. Jerry intentionally ran through transients on the rollers so we could capture what you asked for.
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Originally Posted by muythaibxr
Either way some form of continuous VVT control will make it in.

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