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Old 11-11-2012, 12:19 AM
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Default 92 Miata no Spark - DIYPNP

Car: 92 Turbo Miata 1.6L manual.

Problem: Will not start with DIYPNP MS2. Car starts with stock ECU.

I am getting fuel but no spark when checked with timing light or with in-line spark test bulb.

When I do the Output test for coil in TunerStudio (TS) I hear some tapping sound in sequence but timing light shows nothing.

I do not see RPM move while cranking in TS. The only gauges that work is Fuel Load and AFR because I have AEM Wideband.

Am I suppose to wire the CAS signals to DIYPNP or they are already in the pin-outs in car harness because I seem to find all kind of different info online which is confusing me even more.

I have uploaded my msq file.

I followed installation instructions here:
DIYPNP MegaSquirt installation for the Mazda Miata
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Was your project in TS setup for microsquirt and not megasquirt?

When I open your MSQ I got errors that suggested your project is not setup properly. If not, TS changes a bunch of Input and Outputs to ones that make sense on a v3.0 Mainboard and not a Microquirt module. This would prevent the unit from working properly.

for example, sparkout was set to D14...which is not a DIYPNP output.

Fix your project properties by hitting cntrl+p, go to settings, and select "micosquirt module" under the megasquirt selection.

Then reload the basemap (NOT your map you uploaded) and try again.
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Default Error loading base map

I started new project and when setting up I clicked on Detect ECU and it came up "MS2Extra Serial324"

Then I selected the Microsquirt Module DIYPNP under Settings tab.

When I try to Open the base map (91 miata 240cc injectors.msq) that is provided at DIYautotune I get the following error:
Signatures do not match!
Tune File signature:MS2Extra Rel 3.0.3s
Configuration signature:MS2Extra Serial324

Do you want to load it anyway?
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yes, that's fine.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
yes, that's fine.
I clicked Yes load anyway.

I got the following errors. Check attached picture.

EDIT: FIXED
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try the attached.
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Default New loaded map and Composite log

Please see the base map reloaded and set the settings. Currently no errors on load.

I also attached the composite logger.
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Default No RPM

Originally Posted by Braineack
try the attached.
I have no RPM indication either when cranking.
I have no data showing when diagnosing under trigger logger.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
try the attached.
Please see the error I got when I loaded this map.

I disabled the "PM4 Accel LED" under Output port setting.
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can you take pics of your diypnp wire mods? lets double check you put everything to the right spot
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Default Wiring

Originally Posted by Braineack
can you take pics of your diypnp wire mods? lets double check you put everything to the right spot
Please see attached pictures. I verified wiring as stated below.

DIYPNP wiring: Starting from left on main board.

Main board ---> Connector Board
IAT --> 4P
CLT --> 4Q
TPS --> GND on main board.
O2 --> 4N
VR+
VR-
OP+
OP- --> 4E
VR2 --> 4G
IAC --> 4W
TACH
FUEL --> IN on High side driver next to proto area.
INJ2 --> 4V
INJ1 --> 4U
12V --> 1B
SG --> 4C
SG --> 4D
GND --> 4B
GND --> 4A
GND --> *TPS with resistor
IG1 --> 1G
IG2 --> 1H
WLD
ALD --> 1R
High Side out --> 1C
AEM Analog signal --> 4N
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anybody help!
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Miata installs SHOULD NOT use R39 on a DIYPNP. You are not getting a cam signal. First try removing R39 and see if that fixes it.
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remove r39.
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
Miata installs SHOULD NOT use R39 on a DIYPNP. You are not getting a cam signal. First try removing R39 and see if that fixes it.
Removed R39. Still no Spark. I am posting my settings from Tuner Studio. Please see attached pictures.
Attached Thumbnails 92 Miata no Spark - DIYPNP-1_project_settings.png   92 Miata no Spark - DIYPNP-2_other_settings.jpg  
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composite log screenshot.
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Default Composite log

Originally Posted by Braineack
composite log screenshot.
Here is the Composite log. Full view and zoomed in view.
Attached Thumbnails 92 Miata no Spark - DIYPNP-composite_log1.jpg   92 Miata no Spark - DIYPNP-composite_log1zoom.jpg  
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still no cam input.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
still no cam input.
What do I need to check now? I removed the R39. Do I need to run wires from CAS to megasquirt or is it already done in the factory harness?

I have the R14 removed too.

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Originally Posted by Braineack
still no cam input.
I don't think I need to jump these for 1992 Miata because I didn't do that on my v1.5 board?



"Using only the first two jumpers as in the above image would control a 4cyl wasted spark configuration, such as controlling either one 4 tower coil pack, or two dual tower packs. This setup would use only outputs S1 and S2."
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