Originally Posted by Emberghost
Can you elaborate on some things the NB has that makes it better?
Originally Posted by samnavy
Guys around here can be pretty passionate about the NA/NB thing.
NB's are all OBDII.
NB's are a little more complicated when it comes to the ECU... little things like alternator control, VVT, VICS, and a few other things.
NB's depending on year have retunless fuel lines and controlling engine timing gets a little complicated.
Starting in '00, all Miata's come standard with POWER EVERYTHING.
'99 was the last year you could even get a stripper... even a manual steering rack (and I have yet to find a '99 with one).
There's also the way they look and they cost more.
Pretty much the '99 was the start of the weight gain and tech gain... and some guys drive Miata's for the purity of simply driving... becoming one with the road and all that ****.
For me, I'm looking with all my might for a base '99 w/sport package. I'll yank the PS and AC if it comes with that ****, remove all the sound deadening, bolt my plastic drag seat to the floor, and laugh at all the ******* driving S2000's on 70* days with the top up.
NB's have a better flowing head so you will make more HP per PSI, or make the same HP at less PSI boost, however you want to look at it. 99-00's have 9.5:1 compression, VICS, and the coveted "99' head". Pretty much the best motor*. 01+ got VVT, which requires a 2k dollar ECU to control at the moment. And they have 10:1 compression and no VICS.
NB's have a better, more stable ignition input that's more reliable than the NA's.
NB's have more bracing and generally drive more like a "car" than a "sports car". IE-quieter, more composed, etc. compared to the older ones. I've drove a 92' and it definately was more "fun" in the twisties, but the NB is better IMO for a daily driver.
NB's don't have ugly pop up headlights. They have ugly recessed headlights.
And to Sam, it's my understanding that my base model 99' weighs exactly 2200 lbs. That's with P/S, A/C, and power windows. Minus 150 lbs. of softop, emmisions BS, old wiring and whatnot, add 50 lbs. for a hardtop and turbo ****, and I'm probably around 2200 lbs. turbo'd.
I still think you're a nut for wanting to strip your NB of A/C when you get one. All the sound deadening **** doesn't weight 10lbs. And I can tell you, because I've drove my NB without it: The car is ******* loud as hell without it! I'll go on a diet if I need to loose 10lbs.