Just ordered BEGI-S kit for my 1999
#1
Just ordered BEGI-S kit for my 1999
Hey guise.
Lurker turned member here, just ordered my kit from BEGI.
1999 Emerald green(PS\noABS\LSD)
Shanghai-s
Stainless downpipe
Wideband 02
Begi's spaceship looking FMU.
Waiting on delivery. This one's going to be a side of the road installation. I will be sure to take some pictures. Contemplating attempting running E85 in it as Prospero did with the same kit(he reported 10psi for a good bit of time noFMIC.) but I guess I will just see what 6 feels like.
Did NGK wires\plugs today (went with a "colder" plug as suggested by a few)
Timing belt and a new water pump are next on my list(I should have a decent bit of time to do these as they quoted me 4 weeks delivery time)
Any other bits I should redo\replace in prep for the boost?
John
Lurker turned member here, just ordered my kit from BEGI.
1999 Emerald green(PS\noABS\LSD)
Shanghai-s
Stainless downpipe
Wideband 02
Begi's spaceship looking FMU.
Waiting on delivery. This one's going to be a side of the road installation. I will be sure to take some pictures. Contemplating attempting running E85 in it as Prospero did with the same kit(he reported 10psi for a good bit of time noFMIC.) but I guess I will just see what 6 feels like.
Did NGK wires\plugs today (went with a "colder" plug as suggested by a few)
Timing belt and a new water pump are next on my list(I should have a decent bit of time to do these as they quoted me 4 weeks delivery time)
Any other bits I should redo\replace in prep for the boost?
John
#3
But I'm sure I probably have some kind of brain issues going on too.
I think the FMU is pretty cool. Its a cute little guy. Maybe I will add eyes and a face.
Im sure you think I should have went with a MS2 or something crazy like that but I didnt want to get 600-700-800$'s in and need to buy software\harnesses to make my **** work. I considered building the DIYMS but actually appreciate the mechanical operation of BEGI's spaceship. Additionally, 5psi is my intention.
tl;dr: Im poor and gay for the spaceship
#4
You have to lurk better.
Lurk 2: Lurk Harder.
MS1 for 147: http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...-kit-p-28.html
10x better than a FMU. Cheap.
It doesn't need to be 600$.
You'll get much better MPG. Much better manners. It'll feel better and make more power.
Even if you stick with the FMU, you need to control timing, and the FMU is already more expensive than an MS1.
For under the price of just the FMU, you can even get the v3.0.
The MS2 starts at 260$. http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...-kit-p-59.html
The FMU is 230. You also need a timing unit. Your argument isn't very valid...
Lurk 2: Lurk Harder.
MS1 for 147: http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...-kit-p-28.html
10x better than a FMU. Cheap.
It doesn't need to be 600$.
You'll get much better MPG. Much better manners. It'll feel better and make more power.
Even if you stick with the FMU, you need to control timing, and the FMU is already more expensive than an MS1.
For under the price of just the FMU, you can even get the v3.0.
The MS2 starts at 260$. http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...-kit-p-59.html
The FMU is 230. You also need a timing unit. Your argument isn't very valid...
#5
In my wildest of dreams, I could not manage soldering the MS together, not with the best instruction manual nor with a day full of motivation. I understand you can purchase it built from Brain for ~500$.
Still have spaceship woody.
The day will come when I will save up my pennies, strive for more boost, purchase a FMIC\larger injectors\o2 things\another unbroken chinacharger and then attempt to peddle my spaceship to somebody as a "table decoration" for 100$. At that point I will probably have the knowledge(or cash) to build(or buy) the MS2 and enjoy my car how you really think I should.
How much should I look into timing if I am only running 5?
Still have spaceship woody.
The day will come when I will save up my pennies, strive for more boost, purchase a FMIC\larger injectors\o2 things\another unbroken chinacharger and then attempt to peddle my spaceship to somebody as a "table decoration" for 100$. At that point I will probably have the knowledge(or cash) to build(or buy) the MS2 and enjoy my car how you really think I should.
How much should I look into timing if I am only running 5?
#8
Yeah, I fully understand my decision, and I understand your rage, I just don't want that product right now.
Let me waste my money down the line. Let me learn the hard way, pops.
I guess its good that this is MY mid tier shitbox and not your mid tier shitbox.
Regardless, I am open to suggestions as to what I have left to do preparation wise.
Let me waste my money down the line. Let me learn the hard way, pops.
I guess its good that this is MY mid tier shitbox and not your mid tier shitbox.
Regardless, I am open to suggestions as to what I have left to do preparation wise.
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Nagase, you're almost worst than the OP.
How do you expect the FMU to do anything on the returnless fuel system?
post #4 is failboat city.
#1. You don't address the fact that running an FMU on a returnless fuel system takes a lot of fandangling to even make it work...
#2. You suggest the MS1 and state the price but fail to realize that not everyone can build a unit, and there is no MSI option for the 99 unless you run a 90-97 CAS which is stupid and you cannot plug the unit in without then building your own harness. The cost/time/effort/knowledge increases.
#3. You suggest the MS2, but fail to realize that not everyone can build a unit, and you cannot plug the unit in without then building your own harness, and you need custom circuits to run a '99 on MS2...there is no msI option. The cost/time/effort/knowledge increases.
#4 You come across like a complete ******* without good reasoning to why your suggestions would be better, other than cost. Becuase if he goes out and buys the v3.0 MS2 kit, he stills needs to do a lot more work and needs to spend a bit more cash for a harness solution all of which he is not capible of.
You post should have simply focused on how the FMU won't really work and maybe suggesting the voodoo box and/or ecu reflash instead, if he really doens't have the budget for the cheapest robust ECU solution ever available...
warning: im in a bad mood today, stop being ******** or I lay down my wraith.
How do you expect the FMU to do anything on the returnless fuel system?
post #4 is failboat city.
#1. You don't address the fact that running an FMU on a returnless fuel system takes a lot of fandangling to even make it work...
#2. You suggest the MS1 and state the price but fail to realize that not everyone can build a unit, and there is no MSI option for the 99 unless you run a 90-97 CAS which is stupid and you cannot plug the unit in without then building your own harness. The cost/time/effort/knowledge increases.
#3. You suggest the MS2, but fail to realize that not everyone can build a unit, and you cannot plug the unit in without then building your own harness, and you need custom circuits to run a '99 on MS2...there is no msI option. The cost/time/effort/knowledge increases.
#4 You come across like a complete ******* without good reasoning to why your suggestions would be better, other than cost. Becuase if he goes out and buys the v3.0 MS2 kit, he stills needs to do a lot more work and needs to spend a bit more cash for a harness solution all of which he is not capible of.
You post should have simply focused on how the FMU won't really work and maybe suggesting the voodoo box and/or ecu reflash instead, if he really doens't have the budget for the cheapest robust ECU solution ever available...
warning: im in a bad mood today, stop being ******** or I lay down my wraith.
#13
Brain, upon contacting a member over at miata.net I realized, as you said, a msii unit was not simply buy and solder together. With all of theadditional work/knowledge/cost involved I electedto attempt to "fandangle" the begi unit.
As stated before, I understand my decisions, I did not just pop off and buy the unit hoping it would work. I had a few conversations with the guys at begi and they assured me that I would have no problem making the fmu unit work and I trust that if I encounter any issues they will be happy to guide me the rest of the way.
Everybody says this "doesn't work", but I've spoken to a few now who have actually installed and operated the unit on a 99-00 with no issue. Maybe if I don't **** it up some other searching noob can learn from this thread.
In b4 "no it work but ms bettar!!"
As stated before, I understand my decisions, I did not just pop off and buy the unit hoping it would work. I had a few conversations with the guys at begi and they assured me that I would have no problem making the fmu unit work and I trust that if I encounter any issues they will be happy to guide me the rest of the way.
Everybody says this "doesn't work", but I've spoken to a few now who have actually installed and operated the unit on a 99-00 with no issue. Maybe if I don't **** it up some other searching noob can learn from this thread.
In b4 "no it work but ms bettar!!"
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it will work but MS bettar!
damn, too late.
youre going to still want to keep boost low until you can address ignition retard. If you can get the FMU running, great, keep boost low 5-6psi or so. Get it running, then save up for a better solution and run moar boost saftely.
Or you can go die in a flaming pit of feces because you didn't buy a MS and do everthing like everyone else.
damn, too late.
youre going to still want to keep boost low until you can address ignition retard. If you can get the FMU running, great, keep boost low 5-6psi or so. Get it running, then save up for a better solution and run moar boost saftely.
Or you can go die in a flaming pit of feces because you didn't buy a MS and do everthing like everyone else.
#19
Waiting on delivery. This one's going to be a side of the road installation. I will be sure to take some pictures. Contemplating attempting running E85 in it as Prospero did with the same kit(he reported 10psi for a good bit of time noFMIC.) but I guess I will just see what 6 feels like.
#20
87-93 are commonly available but there is a place that only distributes e85 that is mildly local to me. Close enough to warrant driving on over. I am in morgantown, Wv. The place isn't exactly a pay and pump so I would have to arrange my own setup but their e85 is actually cheaper than regular in the area. Cool.