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11-18-2015, 07:37 PM
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Another thread on tire selection - on my!
Over the months I've read dozens of threads with tire comparisons, racking-and-stacking of the old best vs the new best, etc.
What I can't find is data on the following:
1) Selecting 205 (on 9s) vs 225 (on 9s) vs 245 (on 10s) for "A, B, or C" tracks. I assume it's a function of the car's power/wt, or maybe just overall power, and the average speed of said road course (think tight Thunderwest vs Buttonwillow)
2) Selecting the above in Hoosier A vs Hoosier R compound based on ambient and track temperatures
For this exercise, one may assume I am 'stuck' with my current engine build of ~150whp, but have unlimited mobility in wheel and tire size as well as tire selection with a goal of simply the fastest lap time, a la time trial, as I try to compete with my buddies that have 'faster' cars.
What I can't find is data on the following:
1) Selecting 205 (on 9s) vs 225 (on 9s) vs 245 (on 10s) for "A, B, or C" tracks. I assume it's a function of the car's power/wt, or maybe just overall power, and the average speed of said road course (think tight Thunderwest vs Buttonwillow)
2) Selecting the above in Hoosier A vs Hoosier R compound based on ambient and track temperatures
For this exercise, one may assume I am 'stuck' with my current engine build of ~150whp, but have unlimited mobility in wheel and tire size as well as tire selection with a goal of simply the fastest lap time, a la time trial, as I try to compete with my buddies that have 'faster' cars.
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Read through the suggested thread but I think the ROUGH rule of thumb generally is....
205 = 7.5" - 8"rim
225 = 9" rim
235-245 = 10"
245+ = 11" rim
changing tyre sizes for different tracks is not normally done as most cars have an optimum grip level to suit chassis and power rather than track specific.....tyre pressures, alignment settings can vary track to track.
But whatever floats your boat
205 = 7.5" - 8"rim
225 = 9" rim
235-245 = 10"
245+ = 11" rim
changing tyre sizes for different tracks is not normally done as most cars have an optimum grip level to suit chassis and power rather than track specific.....tyre pressures, alignment settings can vary track to track.
But whatever floats your boat
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11-18-2015, 09:16 PM
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Read through the suggested thread but I think the ROUGH rule of thumb generally is....
205 = 7.5" - 8"rim
225 = 9" rim
235-245 = 10"
245+ = 11" rim
changing tyre sizes for different tracks is not normally done as most cars have an optimum grip level to suit chassis and power rather than track specific.....tyre pressures, alignment settings can vary track to track.
But whatever floats your boat
205 = 7.5" - 8"rim
225 = 9" rim
235-245 = 10"
245+ = 11" rim
changing tyre sizes for different tracks is not normally done as most cars have an optimum grip level to suit chassis and power rather than track specific.....tyre pressures, alignment settings can vary track to track.
But whatever floats your boat
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11-19-2015, 02:27 AM
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On small, tighter tracks tire width is king (yes, Buttonwillow fits into this category too). On faster road courses or ovals (Willow Springs, Auto Club Speedway) drag begins to be a factor that may limit the ideal tire width.
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Fastest single lap in a 150whp car with no regard for cost = 225/45 Hoosier A7. On some tighter tracks, the 245/40 might be faster.
Width is selected by the emphasis a track puts on aero vs. grip balance. Most tracks trend towards grip. The only way to know for sure is to A/B test the two tires.
As are virtually always faster in a single-lap format. They will overheat and go off in warm/hot weather after multiple laps, so for a long run (30min event), the R may be a superior choice. This is affected by chassis weight more than anything else, since a light car on 245s will keep an A7 under the car much longer than a heavy car on a 205 or a 225.
Width is selected by the emphasis a track puts on aero vs. grip balance. Most tracks trend towards grip. The only way to know for sure is to A/B test the two tires.
As are virtually always faster in a single-lap format. They will overheat and go off in warm/hot weather after multiple laps, so for a long run (30min event), the R may be a superior choice. This is affected by chassis weight more than anything else, since a light car on 245s will keep an A7 under the car much longer than a heavy car on a 205 or a 225.
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11-19-2015, 11:16 AM
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Fastest single lap in a 150whp car with no regard for cost = 225/45 Hoosier A7. On some tighter tracks, the 245/40 might be faster.
Width is selected by the emphasis a track puts on aero vs. grip balance. Most tracks trend towards grip. The only way to know for sure is to A/B test the two tires.
As are virtually always faster in a single-lap format. They will overheat and go off in warm/hot weather after multiple laps, so for a long run (30min event), the R may be a superior choice. This is affected by chassis weight more than anything else, since a light car on 245s will keep an A7 under the car much longer than a heavy car on a 205 or a 225.
Width is selected by the emphasis a track puts on aero vs. grip balance. Most tracks trend towards grip. The only way to know for sure is to A/B test the two tires.
As are virtually always faster in a single-lap format. They will overheat and go off in warm/hot weather after multiple laps, so for a long run (30min event), the R may be a superior choice. This is affected by chassis weight more than anything else, since a light car on 245s will keep an A7 under the car much longer than a heavy car on a 205 or a 225.
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