Lets Discuss Seats and Harnesses.
#203
I've looked through this whole thread and didn't find anyone else with this issue. My 99 does not have an oem location for an eyelet bolt on the trans tunnel. Is this common with to have to drill a hole and reinforce the bolt?
Also, why would I choose the $400 schroth over the $200 gforce. Just for the option of pull-up? I don't have any plans on running a hans either.
Also, why would I choose the $400 schroth over the $200 gforce. Just for the option of pull-up? I don't have any plans on running a hans either.
Funny story from this weekend. I have a customer with a ex-Formula SAE car. i was over at his shop this weekend pouring him a seat. He brought it to my attention that the G force harnesses bought where very heavy. we added it up and it increased his chassis weight by 5%. he switched over to a OMP 805 harness instead.
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#204
Originally Posted by OGRacing;1206460he switched over to a[URL="http://www.ogracing.com/omp-805-hlpf-lightweight-pro-racing-harness"
OMP 805 harness[/URL] instead.
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#205
Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses.
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.
I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.
I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
#208
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</p><p> </p><p>Obviously this isn't a problem for me anymore...but my car passed inspection with plain ol' 6 point harnesses installed. the "orange push button" may not be a well known rule I guess.</p>
Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses. My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph. I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
#209
Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses.
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.
I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.
I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
#210
Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses.
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.
I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.
I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
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#211
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Question about the seat foaming. My gf is a foot shorter than me and needs to sit about 6-8 inches forward. Can I use the seat foam to safely move her forward or will it move her too far away from the seat.
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#212
yep, you can do that. on the NP01 cars the drivers sit 3" too low and can't see out of the thing. so i have pre made foam boad that is cut and stacked underneath them, to raise them up 3". for your GF you'll need the same pre made board it's 1" thick by 30"x60". so you can stack it behind her. then pour the 2 part foam, it will glue everything together and she will have a better fitting seat then you will.
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#214
If it isn't intended to be a long term solution you can use inexpensive 2lb urethane foam (US composites has it). I made 3-4 inserts with that stuff and there were very comfortable but they get brittle and fall apart after about a year of use. With an insert that thick, belt openings start to be in weird places and it makes things a little tricky
#215
I will for sure spend the extra money on a nicer set of harnesses next time vs. the G-force Pro 3". They are fine, but remind me of some old seat belts from an early 80s small plane.
Biggest issue for me that is functional vs. cosmetic is that the slacking tab falls next to the seat edge and is very difficult to adjust if you are in the seat (good thing that does not happen much). I can't find a way to adjust the belt to get that to fall anywhere else. The set-up is with Sprint seats, OE front hump and shaved rear OE mounting points (stock seats and race seats are super easy to swap). Just a bad combo of seat, seat placement and harness design. I did not see that coming at all.
Biggest issue for me that is functional vs. cosmetic is that the slacking tab falls next to the seat edge and is very difficult to adjust if you are in the seat (good thing that does not happen much). I can't find a way to adjust the belt to get that to fall anywhere else. The set-up is with Sprint seats, OE front hump and shaved rear OE mounting points (stock seats and race seats are super easy to swap). Just a bad combo of seat, seat placement and harness design. I did not see that coming at all.
#218
almost nothing "drops" into a miata. the only seat i've seen that bolts in was a Sparco rev. Funny thing is a sparco pro 2000II seat drops-in on the passenger side. driver side needs some help.
the help.
i've seen kazpec's seat mounts. i can recommend them. they are also compatible with a lot of different sparco seats. ProCar Innovations Race Spec Seat Mount Version 2 | KazeSpec Engineering Proven to fit the following seats: Sparco Sprint 5, Sparco Evo, pretty much the majority of Sparco seats. The mount will fit other seats within 422mm wide, but we have not tested the fitment in anything other than these and cannot guarantee compatibility
the help.
i've seen kazpec's seat mounts. i can recommend them. they are also compatible with a lot of different sparco seats. ProCar Innovations Race Spec Seat Mount Version 2 | KazeSpec Engineering Proven to fit the following seats: Sparco Sprint 5, Sparco Evo, pretty much the majority of Sparco seats. The mount will fit other seats within 422mm wide, but we have not tested the fitment in anything other than these and cannot guarantee compatibility
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Ultrashields 15", 16" and 17" fit NBs with no problem. TDR even sells pre-made brackets that work very well. I even suspect that the US 18" would fit the passenger side on an NB. Driver's side is just a tiny bit more narrow.
I did install a 6 point Schroth on the driver's side of the 2003. The mounting locations for the sub strap are not perfect. There's all kinds of stuff on the bottom getting in the way. Anybody have pictures 6 point of sub belt mounting in an NB?
Somebody wrote that the trans tunnel is pretty weak for belt mounting. This is true with the exception of the rear-most part (at least on NBs again). Here the metal is doubled up and that's where I attached the lap belts. Still used mounting plates of course!
I did install a 6 point Schroth on the driver's side of the 2003. The mounting locations for the sub strap are not perfect. There's all kinds of stuff on the bottom getting in the way. Anybody have pictures 6 point of sub belt mounting in an NB?
Somebody wrote that the trans tunnel is pretty weak for belt mounting. This is true with the exception of the rear-most part (at least on NBs again). Here the metal is doubled up and that's where I attached the lap belts. Still used mounting plates of course!
#220
Ultrashields 15", 16" and 17" fit NBs with no problem. TDR even sells pre-made brackets that work very well. I even suspect that the US 18" would fit the passenger side on an NB. Driver's side is just a tiny bit more narrow.
I did install a 6 point Schroth on the driver's side of the 2003. The mounting locations for the sub strap are not perfect. There's all kinds of stuff on the bottom getting in the way. Anybody have pictures 6 point of sub belt mounting in an NB?
Somebody wrote that the trans tunnel is pretty weak for belt mounting. This is true with the exception of the rear-most part (at least on NBs again). Here the metal is doubled up and that's where I attached the lap belts. Still used mounting plates of course!
I did install a 6 point Schroth on the driver's side of the 2003. The mounting locations for the sub strap are not perfect. There's all kinds of stuff on the bottom getting in the way. Anybody have pictures 6 point of sub belt mounting in an NB?
Somebody wrote that the trans tunnel is pretty weak for belt mounting. This is true with the exception of the rear-most part (at least on NBs again). Here the metal is doubled up and that's where I attached the lap belts. Still used mounting plates of course!