tomiboy

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Any of you running Xidas Club Sports without the dual springs? Any regrets?

Savington

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You want the dual springs.

2ndGearRubber

I've heard Emilio say "they do everything better". I wish he gave specific examples. :(

Braineack

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You need to learn not to question; just accept.

Leafy

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Basically, the helper spring makes sure you use all the droop travel of the shock. In the rear this helps you keep the inside rear down and apply power better coming out of the corner. In the front its not as big of a deal as long as you have proper roll stiffness except in certain situations. They're worth the extra money, but only if you use them right. If you have a shock at the ride height you want but the helper is fully compressed at full droop you need to add the spacer bits on the top of the shock shaft, I believe that should be in the instructions that no one reads.

k24madness

iTrader: (6)

You want the dual springs in most situations. If you opt out at purchase time you can't add them later because main spring lengths are shorter with the helpers.

tomiboy

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Now that's good to know!

240_to_miata

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You can add them later. Springs are cheap. You just will need to buy the different length springs.

I currently have no duals. I still LOVE the suspension but I will add the duals eventually to gain all the benefits listed above.

While everyone on here pretends to be all out ballers it is still acceptable not to have the best of the best. Buy what you can afford and upgrade later. The xida is a great suspension in any form.

Leafy

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My only real regret with the xidas is that I didnt buy doubles the first time. And my second is that I didnt get them with the solid upper mounts. I didnt realize how janky the adapters for the NB mounts actually were. But Club sports are still a grand cheaper than any other coil over setup with AST 5100 dampers.

emilio700

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Savington

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Nah. You just need to accept that the question's been answered over and over and it's easier and more polite to just say "You want the dual springs because they do everything better" than "search noob".

sugy

very cool vid. definitely buying dual spring xidas when my current setup dies

Braineack

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whats going on at 0:31?

vehicular

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But... you can go, like an inch and a half lower if you take the helper springs out... That's what we do here, right?

gtred

I had assumed that the high rate front sway bar would negate any effects of the helper spring, so I only use helpers on the rear... it looks like I'll have to re-evaluate my assumptions!

Nice to see a little scientific testing is associated with your opinions!

bigben

Thanks for that video, it worth more than any explanation I've ever read regarding the helpers!

miata_racer

Tires lock up under braking at times it's the RF tire which is typically the most common lockup point

Braineack

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it just looks like the tire was floating.

chpmnsws6

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ABS is not working.

Its amazing how much flex the sway bar mount has even with blocks.

wannafbody

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I didn't notice much flex, looked more like shadows to me.