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Old 09-24-2012, 01:06 AM
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+1 for keeping ps. I run 15x9/275's in csp with ps but no ac (just use the no ac belt) and it's the way to go. You can focus on your driving and not slug it out with the wheel on sweepers.
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I just drove my car on 275 purple crack yesterday. I got the wheel ripped out of my hands only once, when I got late in a slalom and tried to just hoosier magic force my way through it and ended up getting all sorts of sideways. After that run I came in and went. I want power steering.
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Originally Posted by Midtenn

I am curious if anyone has tried to under drive the power steering pump to decrease the pressure and reduce the number of hose failures.
Isn't a PS pump a supply only as much as it demands kind of deal?
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Well i'm guessing most people go with a different power steering pump because its the easiest. I'm thinking how about redoing the fittings and all that with bigger diameter ones?
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A different ps pump isnt legal.

Read section 15.1.a.
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But a different pump pulley is.
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The answer to burst ps lines is in 15.1.a and that is as much as I'm allowed to tell you.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
I just drove my car on 275 purple crack yesterday. I got the wheel ripped out of my hands only once, when I got late in a slalom and tried to just hoosier magic force my way through it and ended up getting all sorts of sideways. After that run I came in and went. I want power steering.
Sounds more like driver error than not having PS.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:10 PM
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I got late because I tried going faster through the slalom, the car had the ability to make it I didnt have the ability to muscle the wheel fast enough.
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My build inspiration is the John Becker car. I started with a ‘90 that has a 03 motor (with headers) that the owner could not get running. I traded a buddy a set of wheels and tires for the Mega Squirt. Being a 90, some of the back date stuff won’t be necessary to add lightness. Gaining 2.5 negative camber is attainable with ISC offset bushings at a reasonable expense. The seats are a combination of new and used Kirkey aluminum, light and cheap. You get the idea this is a budget build. There is no escaping the tire cost for running CSP though.
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Originally Posted by gregcuda
There is no escaping the tire cost for running CSP though.
Well not exactly, if you win 2 scca regional events a year and have a hoosier contingency you'd get 4 free tires a year. Not easy to pull off, but it's not impossible.
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Originally Posted by Red91
Well not exactly, if you win 2 scca regional events a year and have a hoosier contingency you'd get 4 free tires a year. Not easy to pull off, but it's not impossible.
they paid tires for regional event too?? i am confuse.
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I think he means tours.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
I think he means tours.
correct, my bad I meant national tours that come to your region.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
But a different pump pulley is.
How do you guys swap the pulleys?

Off topic but while we are on the topic. Ever so often, while I am sitting in traffic, if I try to rapidly turn the wheel to pull out from behind a car, it feels like the power steering stops working for a second. Is this just pressure building in the system or a problem?
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:50 PM
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22x10 hoosier road race slicks in R35 compound on 10" wheels. Depowered rack. The only time I notice having to make an effort to turn is under 10mph and even then it's not exactly an issue.

Currently recessing as necessary to go to 23.5 by 11.5 on 12" wheels.
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:53 PM
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Swap the fluid to Redline Power Steering anf that goes away.

Originally Posted by Saml01
How do you guys swap the pulleys?

Off topic but while we are on the topic. Ever so often, while I am sitting in traffic, if I try to rapidly turn the wheel to pull out from behind a car, it feels like the power steering stops working for a second. Is this just pressure building in the system or a problem?
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I have not tried it yet but adding a power steering fluid cooler with the Redline ps fluid is supposed to take care of the problem of blown lines. Does anyone want to share specifics on this?
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by compaddict
Swap the fluid to Redline Power Steering anf that goes away.
Is it as simple as sucking it out? I haven't looked but I do not think there is a dedicated drain for the PS system?

Thanks for all the insight. I appreciate it.
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