NASA Texas Time Trials Season Results
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NASA Texas Time Trials Season Results
Dude! I was checking out the results from TWS this last weekend and saw this. From the NASA Forum...
Season Champions were also decided, here are the top 3 per class
TTS - 16 total
1st - Mitch Kramer (674 points)
2nd - John Roberts (515 points) ZX-Tex
3rd - Lajos Minik (470 points)
TTB - 18 total
1st - Ken Orgeron (600 points)
2nd - Trey Rozelle (472 points) Hustler
3rd - Rich Soule (335 points)
TTC - 5 total
1st - Norman Wilhelm (700 points)
2nd - Eric Foss (200 points)
2nd - Jake Groves (200 points) Jacob300ZX
see http://nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=50974
Season Champions were also decided, here are the top 3 per class
TTS - 16 total
1st - Mitch Kramer (674 points)
2nd - John Roberts (515 points) ZX-Tex
3rd - Lajos Minik (470 points)
TTB - 18 total
1st - Ken Orgeron (600 points)
2nd - Trey Rozelle (472 points) Hustler
3rd - Rich Soule (335 points)
TTC - 5 total
1st - Norman Wilhelm (700 points)
2nd - Eric Foss (200 points)
2nd - Jake Groves (200 points) Jacob300ZX
see http://nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=50974
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Also worth mentioning is that the SM leaders in Sunday's afternoon race were running in the 2:01 range with the fastest being a 2:01.3 set by Trevor McCallion. Those who set times considerably faster than this, you know who you are. For example, Spoolin's top time was almost 7 seconds under the top Spec Miata times, and mine at about 5 seconds under.
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TTB E46 M3 which weighs <3100lb and makes 330whp, 285 Hoosier R6, and not 4 second faster driver than me at Hallett, 8 seconds faster at MSR-C, nor is he a 5 second faster driver at ECR. He typically turns a time in TTB that wins TTA. Its a little strange because at 245whp, he put bus-lengths on me at TWS and TTB has a 10hp/1lb limit for a reason. I'm competitive and faster than the E92 M3s, C5Zs, most S197s, and the Evos in TTB (according to the standings), but he's crushing the field by 10-seconds. TTB was a lot of fun this year because I was in a pack of E92s and it was a hard fought 2nd place most weekends.
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Only on my helmet. I just remembered that Rick was going to make some for me earlier this year and I totally forgot about it. I need to get a few. MT.net should wrap the van that I hope to buy in the near future.
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So E46 M3 is PTC** @ 3415lbs.
If what you say is correct then:
** = 14
R6 = 10
+30mm tire = 7 (TTC base tire size is 255)
-290 lbs = 20
So that's 51 points right there, already an 12 points into an A car and that's with a completely stock suspension, intake, exhaust, etc.
Max RWHP if he's running at 3125lbs is 304. Has he ever been dyno'd?
Does anyone in Texas care about enforcing the rules in TT? Have you ever seen/asked for his classification sheet?
I finished third in PTB at the Nasa Nationals and I can tell you the tech inspection was very lax...and that was for a podium finish at the championship race.
Our PTB/TTB car dyno'd at 265whp and we run at ~3175lbs. I wish we could get another 40whp but we're already at the limit of the points. Eitherway our TTB/PTB car is properly quick (won PTB last year, third this year but I was fastest in the dry) for being a fail wheel drive luxury boat.
If what you say is correct then:
** = 14
R6 = 10
+30mm tire = 7 (TTC base tire size is 255)
-290 lbs = 20
So that's 51 points right there, already an 12 points into an A car and that's with a completely stock suspension, intake, exhaust, etc.
Max RWHP if he's running at 3125lbs is 304. Has he ever been dyno'd?
Does anyone in Texas care about enforcing the rules in TT? Have you ever seen/asked for his classification sheet?
I finished third in PTB at the Nasa Nationals and I can tell you the tech inspection was very lax...and that was for a podium finish at the championship race.
Our PTB/TTB car dyno'd at 265whp and we run at ~3175lbs. I wish we could get another 40whp but we're already at the limit of the points. Eitherway our TTB/PTB car is properly quick (won PTB last year, third this year but I was fastest in the dry) for being a fail wheel drive luxury boat.
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I've been to the dyno with him and I know he's not in a dyno reclass, I'd love for him to roll onto the dyno at the track some time. He may be 3300 with driver. Here are the mods I know he runs:
Cobb tuned on 93 octane
pulleys
carbon intake thing
light exhaust
275 Hoosier R6
AST 5100
camber plates
sway bars
the biggest Stoptech's you've seen in your life
I heard he had a really tough time in tech over engine mods and tire size at nationals.
Cobb tuned on 93 octane
pulleys
carbon intake thing
light exhaust
275 Hoosier R6
AST 5100
camber plates
sway bars
the biggest Stoptech's you've seen in your life
I heard he had a really tough time in tech over engine mods and tire size at nationals.
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So E46 M3 is PTC** @ 3415lbs.
If what you say is correct then:
** = 14
R6 = 10
+30mm tire = 7 (TTC base tire size is 255)
-290 lbs = 20
So that's 51 points right there, already an 12 points into an A car and that's with a completely stock suspension, intake, exhaust, etc.
Max RWHP if he's running at 3125lbs is 304. Has he ever been dyno'd?
Does anyone in Texas care about enforcing the rules in TT? Have you ever seen/asked for his classification sheet?
I finished third in PTB at the Nasa Nationals and I can tell you the tech inspection was very lax...and that was for a podium finish at the championship race.
Our PTB/TTB car dyno'd at 265whp and we run at ~3175lbs. I wish we could get another 40whp but we're already at the limit of the points. Eitherway our TTB/PTB car is properly quick (won PTB last year, third this year but I was fastest in the dry) for being a fail wheel drive luxury boat.
If what you say is correct then:
** = 14
R6 = 10
+30mm tire = 7 (TTC base tire size is 255)
-290 lbs = 20
So that's 51 points right there, already an 12 points into an A car and that's with a completely stock suspension, intake, exhaust, etc.
Max RWHP if he's running at 3125lbs is 304. Has he ever been dyno'd?
Does anyone in Texas care about enforcing the rules in TT? Have you ever seen/asked for his classification sheet?
I finished third in PTB at the Nasa Nationals and I can tell you the tech inspection was very lax...and that was for a podium finish at the championship race.
Our PTB/TTB car dyno'd at 265whp and we run at ~3175lbs. I wish we could get another 40whp but we're already at the limit of the points. Eitherway our TTB/PTB car is properly quick (won PTB last year, third this year but I was fastest in the dry) for being a fail wheel drive luxury boat.
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I run the e46 M3 in TX NASA TT.
NASA TX does care about the rules.
My car is TTB legal with 39 points my sheet is on file if you would like to see it just ask. Mod points are, ** +14, 275mm R6 +14, intake +1, pulleys +1, exhaust +2, AST 4200 +3, springs +2, brakes +2, total 39 points. Plus the free mods, camber plates, bushings, etc. The car is built to the top of the class.
Power to weight is legal. I am happy to dyno my car at any event/track.
I never had any issues at TT Nationals with tires or engine mods.
I usually run on new or fairly new 275mm Hoosiers R6. Fresh tires make a difference as mentioned in this thread by spoolin2bars.
I am at a track or autocross event almost every weekend, practice, practice, practice. My M3 has had 48K miles on it in 3 years and I don't daily drive it.
NASA TX does care about the rules.
My car is TTB legal with 39 points my sheet is on file if you would like to see it just ask. Mod points are, ** +14, 275mm R6 +14, intake +1, pulleys +1, exhaust +2, AST 4200 +3, springs +2, brakes +2, total 39 points. Plus the free mods, camber plates, bushings, etc. The car is built to the top of the class.
Power to weight is legal. I am happy to dyno my car at any event/track.
I never had any issues at TT Nationals with tires or engine mods.
I usually run on new or fairly new 275mm Hoosiers R6. Fresh tires make a difference as mentioned in this thread by spoolin2bars.
I am at a track or autocross event almost every weekend, practice, practice, practice. My M3 has had 48K miles on it in 3 years and I don't daily drive it.
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