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Old 08-04-2012, 05:39 PM
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5w40. Is there an advantage to running a synthetic straight weight oil on track?
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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

I learned quite a bit reading all the arcicles on there after getting in a argument with Hustler.
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
5w40. Is there an advantage to running a synthetic straight weight oil on track?
5w40 vs w40?


it's the same oil. just one has additives to help in colder temps.
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Take it back a step, if both oils are synthetic the straight 40 and the 5w40 are the same oil except the 5w40 doesnt get as thick when the engine is cold. If the 5w40 is dino oil then they are not the same, its actually a 5w oil with additives that make it act like a straight 40 once up to temp.
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I use synthetic, so you pretty much answered my question.
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
I use synthetic, so you pretty much answered my question.
Right so you want to run the synthetic 5w40 over the synthetic straight 40. I'm not sure the car will even be able to crank with straight 40 in it.
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it'll crank but it wont lubricate anything for like 20 minutes while the oil is warming up and can't flow.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Right so you want to run the synthetic 5w40 over the synthetic straight 40. I'm not sure the car will even be able to crank with straight 40 in it.
Different oils behave differently over time (and some is pure snake oil).
Some argue that a straight oil live longer at higher temps (theory being that the visco modifiers break down with heat/time). At the same time you don't have only 100 degrees C (spec temp for the higher viscosity number) as the max temp in the engine.
120 in the pan is not uncommon and should not be alarming. That means you can have 140-150 elsewhere (still no alarming temp for a good oil).
How the visco curves looks at 150 degrees C (think rod bearing oil film thickness) can vary some between straight 40 and 5W40 (and they can differ up there too).

I'm not arguing for one over the other but cold start viscosity is hopefully not the only prio in this subforum. Oil pan preheating is the norm, right
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