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Old 01-30-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Track
I think there was a thread a while back about a race team that is breaking 6ULs. let me see if I can dig it up...
I bet whatever it is its a pro team with pro drivers in a FWD car on 1000lb rear springs, on something sticky, and they jump the worst of the worst curbs, and I bet we don't know the history of the wheel like how many times it jumped a curb or if it ever put metal on metal before breaking.

People say "oh, a wheel broke OMFG666!!!" but in reality most of us avoid the big curbs and don't trade paint.
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Originally Posted by hustler
I bet whatever it is its a pro team with pro drivers in a FWD car on 1000lb rear springs, on something sticky, and they jump the worst of the worst curbs, and I bet we don't know the history of the wheel like how many times it jumped a curb or if it ever put metal on metal before breaking.

People say "oh, a wheel broke OMFG666!!!" but in reality most of us avoid the big curbs and don't trade paint.
oh yea, I have no doubt that its a race team with ridiculous rates. I am in no way saying that 6ULs are bad (I have a set, and plan to get another by the end of the year). All I am saying is, given the right environment, you can break any wheel you want. Whether is a 3-piece CCW or a lowly Rota.

there was no OMFGing on my part, I actually laughed about that post, especially after finding out its a Mini racing team and from listening to arjay talk about rear spring rates on his RSX.
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Originally Posted by Track
there was no OMFGing on my part, I actually laughed about that post, especially after finding out its a Mini racing team and from listening to arjay talk about rear spring rates on his RSX.
You lying bastard. I know you were "OMFGing", I could see it in the sentence structure.
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Originally Posted by hustler
I bet whatever it is its a pro team with pro drivers in a FWD car on 1000lb rear springs, on something sticky, and they jump the worst of the worst curbs, and I bet we don't know the history of the wheel like how many times it jumped a curb or if it ever put metal on metal before breaking.

People say "oh, a wheel broke OMFG666!!!" but in reality most of us avoid the big curbs and don't trade paint.
While this is true, this thread is titled "Wheels for Racing", which leads me to believe the OP will be doing some curb hoppin' and paint swappin'. Just sayin'.

Then again, Ive seen some pretty high dollar wheels fail on track in spectacular fashion that wasnt realated to either item mentioned above. The short and the long of it is, I would buy whatever I could afford to replace, because at some point (again, assuming the OP is really using them for honest-to-xenu racing and not working on HPDE 1 champion) someone is going to hit you, punt you, rub you or force you into the grass, across a curb or into a very large immovable object, and your nice pimpy wheel that you paid $texas for becomes a paperweight.
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I've owned and abused a bunch of RPF1s myself, and have been in close contact with dozens of autocrossed/ track day-ed sets over the years, and have never, EVER heard of someone cracking one. In fact, the only bent RPF1s I've seen were on a THOROUGHLY wrecked S2000 that went end over end through a gravel trap. You couldn't possibly choose a tougher wheel.
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Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15
While this is true, this thread is titled "Wheels for Racing", which leads me to believe the OP will be doing some curb hoppin' and paint swappin'. Just sayin'.
The way RSR customers drives those minis is a stark contrast to how the same driver treats his Vette in NASATX, while he's racing it. If I'm racing a rented car, and paid $25k to do it, I'm going to eat the unreasonably sized curbs, I'm going to burn-out on the curbing, and I'm going to "jump stuff" on every lap, not just the ones that count.
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I can see hustlers next post in his build thread...I jumped a curb...do I need new 6ULs? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Originally Posted by Track
I can see hustlers next post in his build thread...I jumped a curb...do I need new 6ULs? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
You understand that all of TXMC is armed, right? Tone down the muthaf---in disrespect.
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Originally Posted by vehicular
I've owned and abused a bunch of RPF1s myself, and have been in close contact with dozens of autocrossed/ track day-ed sets over the years, and have never, EVER heard of someone cracking one. In fact, the only bent RPF1s I've seen were on a THOROUGHLY wrecked S2000 that went end over end through a gravel trap. You couldn't possibly choose a tougher wheel.
Agreed.....
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Very glad mine gave up at autocross and not turn 1 at TWS..



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Originally Posted by hustler
You understand that all of TXMC is armed, right? Tone down the muthaf---in disrespect.
is that a motorcycle club?

I live in the south, we all got guns.
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Originally Posted by hustler
The way RSR customers drives those minis is a stark contrast to how the same driver treats his Vette in NASATX, while he's racing it. If I'm racing a rented car, and paid $25k to do it, I'm going to eat the unreasonably sized curbs, I'm going to burn-out on the curbing, and I'm going to "jump stuff" on every lap, not just the ones that count.
Those boys in TX must -----foot their Corvettes around.

I can assure that the Mid-A and SE crowd certainly dont based on the amount of paint and rubber Ive seen traded in one afternoon. That definitely extends to SM and SE30 crowds too. You know its bad when they tell you in the drivers meeting before the race to knock off the bumping and banging.
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Originally Posted by sixace
Very glad mine gave up at autocross and not turn 1 at TWS..



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At least those can be fixed.
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Has Kaiser seen those? I imagine they'd like to.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:31 PM
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is running a staggered setup not suggested?
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What benefit would it have? Wicked good understeer?
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Originally Posted by vehicular
What benefit would it have? Wicked good understeer?
tire rotations would be easier lol. What about if I run 4 different sizes of tires, so I can always have more grip turning right...sounds better since most turns are right handers on a CW circuit.
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:15 PM
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ScottFW said big brakes like these (http://flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept...5%20%201990-93) wont fit on RPF1's, is there any more info on that
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lol. just was curious. since others cars run staggered setups. i have a staggered set of 6ULs from my old car, is it really worth going through the trouble of selling a pair to have matching sizes all around.
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