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02-02-2013, 10:29 AM
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My biggest disappointment with the Xida's is that I only got to put about 1000 miles on them (and 1 track day) before I put the car in storage for the winter.
You will love them. They are heaven.
Oh and get the dual springs if you can. I wish I did. I will be upgrading in a season or so.
You will love them. They are heaven.
Oh and get the dual springs if you can. I wish I did. I will be upgrading in a season or so.
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02-02-2013, 12:44 PM
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My biggest disappointment with the Xida's is that I only got to put about 1000 miles on them (and 1 track day) before I put the car in storage for the winter.
You will love them. They are heaven.
Oh and get the dual springs if you can. I wish I did. I will be upgrading in a season or so.
You will love them. They are heaven.
Oh and get the dual springs if you can. I wish I did. I will be upgrading in a season or so.
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02-02-2013, 12:47 PM
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By dual spring you mean the helper springs? What is it about helper springs that Miata people are so crazy about? A shock correctly valved for the spring is all you really need, are you getting that much corner lift that you need droop springs so that the spring doesn't rattle?
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Yes helper springs. and yes..without them the springs do come unseated occasionally.
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02-02-2013, 02:06 PM
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By dual spring you mean the helper springs? What is it about helper springs that Miata people are so crazy about? A shock correctly valved for the spring is all you really need, are you getting that much corner lift that you need droop springs so that the spring doesn't rattle?
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I drove my car with non-Xida ASTs on single springs and Crusher back to back at Hallett, Crusher was a bit more planted over the #10 washboard at Hallett. I recently changed suspension and now have the double springs but haven't driven the car yet.
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02-02-2013, 05:56 PM
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It's about putting the inside wheel on the ground, without pre-loading the main spring. It also lets you eat-up tiny little bumps (inside wheel) without upsetting the car.
I drove my car with non-Xida ASTs on single springs and Crusher back to back at Hallett, Crusher was a bit more planted over the #10 washboard at Hallett. I recently changed suspension and now have the double springs but haven't driven the car yet.
I drove my car with non-Xida ASTs on single springs and Crusher back to back at Hallett, Crusher was a bit more planted over the #10 washboard at Hallett. I recently changed suspension and now have the double springs but haven't driven the car yet.
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02-02-2013, 10:17 PM
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Only thing I think I have left that I need to figure out is if im going to need to use the extra bushings on mine so I can actually have the helpers do their job instead of being full compressed at full droop just to reach my desired ride height
Id like to be around 11.75-12" ride height, forgot what the hell that is in pinch weld measurement. but my fenders are stock anyways
Id like to be around 11.75-12" ride height, forgot what the hell that is in pinch weld measurement. but my fenders are stock anyways
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02-02-2013, 10:47 PM
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This might help. From a thread here in 2011.
Helper springs have a nearly zero-rate and the purpose is to prevent the main spring from going slack as full droop is approached (and in going slack, unseating or moving around). They have no effect on ride or handling other than to prevent the main spring from unseating and re-seating suddenly. Helper springs are fully-compressed (coil-bound) at static ride height.
Tender springs typically range from 100 to 200 lb rate and the purpose is to create a dual-rate setup in which the suspension travel includes a lower combined rate (according to the (A X B) / (A + B) = combined spring rate formula) as well as a higher spring rate once the tender spring is fully compressed (at which point the main spring rate takes effect). This results in a more compliant ride than is possible with individual high-rate springs and a greater resistance to roll than is possible with individual low-rate springs. Tender springs are not fully-compressed at static ride height.
Tender springs typically range from 100 to 200 lb rate and the purpose is to create a dual-rate setup in which the suspension travel includes a lower combined rate (according to the (A X B) / (A + B) = combined spring rate formula) as well as a higher spring rate once the tender spring is fully compressed (at which point the main spring rate takes effect). This results in a more compliant ride than is possible with individual high-rate springs and a greater resistance to roll than is possible with individual low-rate springs. Tender springs are not fully-compressed at static ride height.
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02-02-2013, 10:59 PM
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Only thing I think I have left that I need to figure out is if im going to need to use the extra bushings on mine so I can actually have the helpers do their job instead of being full compressed at full droop just to reach my desired ride height
Id like to be around 11.75-12" ride height, forgot what the hell that is in pinch weld measurement. but my fenders are stock anyways
Id like to be around 11.75-12" ride height, forgot what the hell that is in pinch weld measurement. but my fenders are stock anyways
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