The Better Bilstein Ebay Coilover Thread
#1
The Better Bilstein Ebay Coilover Thread
Post up any issues, builds, spring rates measured/used, prices, links, revalve dyno's, etc. DO post new questions not already answered, Don't post the same questions already answered. Bilstein Coilover builds only! No mucking it up with Koni's, stock shocks, blabla.
Step one buy some Bilsteins new or used. If you bought them used take them apart now.
You might be saying to yourself "This is too hard, its complicated." Man up, my 2 year old can build these. Spoon fed. Pop those top hats and springs off. You should use a spring compressor, I didn't. It will pop like a tube of biscuits.
Turn the shock upside down, put the threaded end on something soft like wood or aluminum. Now beat the crap out of the spring perch with a 3lbs sledge, like a viking warrior chopping a head off with a hatchet.
It will eventually fall off.
Do this to all four
If you have this tab on your shock, grind it off. You should wear safety glasses, gloves, and use a vice. I didn't, but I'm really strong and have special eyes.
It should look like this when done. Don't grind a hole in your shock dummy.
Slide your ebay collar on to this c-clip. No lube required.
Step one buy some Bilsteins new or used. If you bought them used take them apart now.
You might be saying to yourself "This is too hard, its complicated." Man up, my 2 year old can build these. Spoon fed. Pop those top hats and springs off. You should use a spring compressor, I didn't. It will pop like a tube of biscuits.
Turn the shock upside down, put the threaded end on something soft like wood or aluminum. Now beat the crap out of the spring perch with a 3lbs sledge, like a viking warrior chopping a head off with a hatchet.
It will eventually fall off.
Do this to all four
If you have this tab on your shock, grind it off. You should wear safety glasses, gloves, and use a vice. I didn't, but I'm really strong and have special eyes.
It should look like this when done. Don't grind a hole in your shock dummy.
Slide your ebay collar on to this c-clip. No lube required.
Last edited by jacob300zx; 04-10-2014 at 11:20 PM.
#2
It sits on the C-clip like this.
Now put your adjustable perches on and your spring. Measure your springs, the thinner gauge steel goes on the rear which is the shorter shock. Thicker gauge goes on the front with the longer shock.
Trim your bumpstops down to between 30-40mm.
Put some QA1 torrington bearings on that ****, Xida's have them.
Put some poly isolators on those dudes, the springs are short and you don't like loud NVH.
Now put your adjustable perches on and your spring. Measure your springs, the thinner gauge steel goes on the rear which is the shorter shock. Thicker gauge goes on the front with the longer shock.
Trim your bumpstops down to between 30-40mm.
Put some QA1 torrington bearings on that ****, Xida's have them.
Put some poly isolators on those dudes, the springs are short and you don't like loud NVH.
#3
Dont use that bump stop washer cup.
Do go to HDR Home Depot Racing and get 8 flat replacements, use two per shock.
Now put the top hat bushing on.
Put the top hat, rest of your cut bump stop, and washer on it. Why am I using the left over bump stop as a bushing? fatcat says it gets rid of NVH and its free.
You can also use some medium hard ones from summit.
Bam!
Do go to HDR Home Depot Racing and get 8 flat replacements, use two per shock.
Now put the top hat bushing on.
Put the top hat, rest of your cut bump stop, and washer on it. Why am I using the left over bump stop as a bushing? fatcat says it gets rid of NVH and its free.
You can also use some medium hard ones from summit.
Bam!
Last edited by jacob300zx; 04-10-2014 at 11:16 PM.
#4
I bought these
Front Rear Aluminum Scaled coilover 0 3" Spring Kit 90 97 Miata MX 5 MX5 NA Blue | eBay
and this
Front Rear Aluminum Scaled coilover 0 3" Spring Kit 90 97 Miata MX 5 MX5 NA Blue | eBay
and this
#5
Dude. Great pics and write-up.
Just one question though... shouldn't you be putting those pimp-*** torrington bearings underneath the spring?
I mean... that's where they are in the Xida setups that I've seen.
(And Shaikh runs em on the bottom on his car as well... from what I remember when I was pitted next to him at Thunderhill a few months back...)
Just one question though... shouldn't you be putting those pimp-*** torrington bearings underneath the spring?
I mean... that's where they are in the Xida setups that I've seen.
(And Shaikh runs em on the bottom on his car as well... from what I remember when I was pitted next to him at Thunderhill a few months back...)
#7
Dude. Great pics and write-up.
Just one question though... shouldn't you be putting those pimp-*** torrington bearings underneath the spring?
I mean... that's where they are in the Xida setups that I've seen.
(And Shaikh runs em on the bottom on his car as well... from what I remember when I was pitted next to him at Thunderhill a few months back...)
Just one question though... shouldn't you be putting those pimp-*** torrington bearings underneath the spring?
I mean... that's where they are in the Xida setups that I've seen.
(And Shaikh runs em on the bottom on his car as well... from what I remember when I was pitted next to him at Thunderhill a few months back...)
#13
I have five days off work and was tired of my blown shocks. Built these in a couple of hours and for around $500 bucks. Next setup will be something even better.
#16
This thread just body-slammed that m.net thread on the same subject with 8 million posts going over the same 3 issues.
For anyone concerned about the MSM shock length, do this same setup but with ISC tophats. I had a set up like this (actually, I think I bought it from Jake) and it handled fantastically and had a surprisingly plush ride.
For anyone concerned about the MSM shock length, do this same setup but with ISC tophats. I had a set up like this (actually, I think I bought it from Jake) and it handled fantastically and had a surprisingly plush ride.
#17
If you guys want to get more advanced re-valving these are a piece of cake. You need new shock oil that costs like $15/gallon and a shrader valve for each shock that cost $2.50 each. Different valving bits are cheap as well. The downside is that no one sells an off the shelf shaft thats drilled for the adjuster that fits our shafts so none of those cheap adjustable conversion. And thats why sometimes fatcats take a while to get made, Shaik has to send the rods out to a guy to get gun drilled. The hardest part is compression the cap and getting the stupid clip in and out. IIRC once you get it out once you can replace it with a snap ring that's a billion times easier to take in and out.
#18
This thread just body-slammed that m.net thread on the same subject with 8 million posts going over the same 3 issues.
For anyone concerned about the MSM shock length, do this same setup but with ISC tophats. I had a set up like this (actually, I think I bought it from Jake) and it handled fantastically and had a surprisingly plush ride.
For anyone concerned about the MSM shock length, do this same setup but with ISC tophats. I had a set up like this (actually, I think I bought it from Jake) and it handled fantastically and had a surprisingly plush ride.
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What do you guys think about this setup with NA bilsteins, miata GC coilovers (475/350 or something like that) and NB tophats/fcm bumpstops? I'm thinking it should ride comfortably and handle pretty great.
Also, does anybody know what I'd need to make a bilstein shock work with my GC coilovers? They are for kyb agx right now, so I'm pretty sure i will need some adapter rings or something to make the collars sit on the bilsteins.
AWESOME thread btw.
Also, does anybody know what I'd need to make a bilstein shock work with my GC coilovers? They are for kyb agx right now, so I'm pretty sure i will need some adapter rings or something to make the collars sit on the bilsteins.
AWESOME thread btw.
#20
What do you guys think about this setup with NA bilsteins, miata GC coilovers (475/350 or something like that) and NB tophats/fcm bumpstops? I'm thinking it should ride comfortably and handle pretty great.
Also, does anybody know what I'd need to make a bilstein shock work with my GC coilovers? They are for kyb agx right now, so I'm pretty sure i will need some adapter rings or something to make the collars sit on the bilsteins.
AWESOME thread btw.
Also, does anybody know what I'd need to make a bilstein shock work with my GC coilovers? They are for kyb agx right now, so I'm pretty sure i will need some adapter rings or something to make the collars sit on the bilsteins.
AWESOME thread btw.
Last edited by AlexL; 04-11-2014 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Ninja edit for clarity