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Old 09-16-2009, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
i agree its not optimal but ive got an insane deal on this combo and everything was brand new so i couldnt pass. it works.
So what exactly are you recommending here?

That the OP get your "insane deal?" Where exactly would he get that?

If your "insane deal" isn't regular price by a company, what are you recommending? That the customer buy something that doesn't exist because you bought it?

Hint: If you're giving advice and you tell someone to buy something that doesn't exist because /you bought it/... that's bad advice.

So given that your "justification" for buying 7" is completely irrelivant to the OP, the advice should be ignored.

6UL = FTW.
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6ul wheels are nice but they arent the only ******* wheels out there! cmon guys, why the hell are you so obsessed about 6uls?! there are PLENTY more wheels out there.

going back to original discussion: 15x7 w/ 205/50/15 tires are ultimate daily driver wheels/tires setup for miata in my opinion. there really isnt a reason to go wider then that. now, of course you can find 15x7 wheels that will cost double of lets say 6uls or any other similar 15x8/15x9 wheels out there. then, on the other hand, there are SHITLOAD of 15x7 wheels that will be WAY cheaper then 15x8 and 15x9.

also, do not include my car into equation because its much much closer to a race car then a daily driver so ultimately i would run 15x9 myself but then, i can easily dump $3k into wheels/tires if i wanted to which is not an option for OP.

in my opinion, you guys are just trying to push your beliefs of what looks cool on the street to OP while i am trying to suggest something PRACTICAL for daily driving. whats the point of a daily driver? to get you from point a to point b safely, while not wasting lots of gas, and last thing on the list should be "looking cool". yeah, i understand that everyone wants their car to look "dope" with 9" wheels and be practical at the same time but its simply not possible. with wider and HEAVIER wheels and tires gas mileage WILL suffer. its a fact. you know it, i know it, even my girlfriend knows it!

will 15x7 wheels w/ 205/50/15 tires perform well on the track? hell yeah they will! look at spec miata for gods sake!
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
No turbo, so I don't expect you to understand.
just for your information - ive had 3 turbo cars in past 3 years and my previous miata was supercharged, then ghettocharged, then begicharged, then sold. my current miata was supposed to be a 350whp monster but thankfully i understood that i will kill myself in that beast and decided to do n/a for now. once i get enough seat time, i will build it up again with a turbo.
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For a DD I'm with Urban on this. There are a LOT of 15x7 wheels out there that run as little as half what new 6ULs run, and some weigh nearly as little.

If I were baller and had the money I'd get 6ULs though...15x9 at the same weight as 14x5.5 "daisies"...that's not playing around folks.
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:24 PM
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If you think 205's are good for a DD, then you don't have much power.

I had 15x8 6UL's with 225/45 NT-01's and I would still spin through first and second.

I repeat: If you think 205's are good, you're not even near the limit of a stock engine.
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Originally Posted by Nagase
If you think 205's are good for a DD, then you don't have much power.

I had 15x8 6UL's with 225/45 NT-01's and I would still spin through first and second.

I repeat: If you think 205's are good, you're not even near the limit of a stock engine.
Do we have some indication that the op's wife's car is "near the limit of a stock engine"? Isn't that the purpose of these recommendations? Not for 300 WHP track cars, right?
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He ended up getting 15x9 rims anyway (I believe), so I'd /assume/ that he's making or going to be making power. :P
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Originally Posted by Nagase
He ended up getting 15x9 rims anyway (I believe), so I'd /assume/ that he's making or going to be making power. :P
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Originally Posted by Nagase
I repeat: If you think 205's are good, you're not even near the limit of a stock engine.
Don't be an idiot. Suspension has everything to do with wheel spin...and you probably have Cracker-Jack quality **** on your hood ride and think spinning the tires is cool so you can show off for the tire girls who are going home with the "young professional" in the leased GTR.
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
6ul wheels are nice but they arent the only ******* wheels out there! cmon guys, why the hell are you so obsessed about 6uls?! there are PLENTY more wheels out there.
Oh really? Can you name another 15x8 under 13lbs for the same price? Can you name another 15x9 for the same price, regardless of weight?

going back to original discussion: 15x7 w/ 205/50/15 tires are ultimate daily driver wheels/tires setup for miata in my opinion. there really isnt a reason to go wider then that.
I spin 225/45 R-comps in 3rd gear. Let me know if you want a better reason

now, of course you can find 15x7 wheels that will cost double of lets say 6uls or any other similar 15x8/15x9 wheels out there. then, on the other hand, there are SHITLOAD of 15x7 wheels that will be WAY cheaper then 15x8 and 15x9.
Nobody cares about 15x7s, Slava. 15x8s are wider, 15x9s wider still. Wider is better - end of story. Improves steering feel, more cornering grip, everything is better. Autocrossers are the biggest weight ****** out there, and even they agree that they'll take wheel width over wheel weight every time.

You want something practical? A set of free stock Daisies and Falken 912s in 185/60-14. $32 per tire, wheels are free, get the whole thing mounted and balanced for about $160. Oh, those don't LOOK good enough for you? BUT THEY ARE PRACTICAL

in my opinion, you guys are just trying to push your beliefs of what looks cool on the street to OP while i am trying to suggest something PRACTICAL for daily driving. whats the point of a daily driver? to get you from point a to point b safely, while not wasting lots of gas, and last thing on the list should be "looking cool". yeah, i understand that everyone wants their car to look "dope" with 9" wheels and be practical at the same time but its simply not possible. with wider and HEAVIER wheels and tires gas mileage WILL suffer. its a fact. you know it, i know it, even my girlfriend knows it!
Nobody cares. You don't even know the biggest reason why 9s will harm mileage - it sure as **** isn't the weight of the wheel. I saw no mileage drop going from 14x6 to 15x8, and no drop going from 15x8 to 15x9. You should theoretically lose some, but that "some" might be a .25mpg. Might even be less. For all intents and purposes, you can just ignore that.


will 15x7 wheels w/ 205/50/15 tires perform well on the track? hell yeah they will! look at spec miata for gods sake!
15x6s perform well too! Look at E-stock Miatas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1oneoneone
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For the record, spec miata is limited to a 13lb 15X7. Most quality 15X8/9s are lighter. There are A LOT of 15X7 that are catered to the spec miata crowd that are heavy at 13lb. Further, I'm sure every spec miata racer would kill for a 225 on an 8 or 9, but that is not a choice in the rules. A spec miata on a 225 and 9s (not really a spec miata) would win that race EVERY TIME.
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stfu, faggets.
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Originally Posted by hustler
stfu, faggets.
No, you.

Rollin on 8's, bitch.
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Originally Posted by webby459
No, you.

Rollin on 8's, bitch.
this is the last time you will type to me like this on the forum. I'm far to jacked and pumped to sit here and let a bitch like you talk **** to me. I don't think you realize that I just repped double my body weight on the bench. Seriously bro, I'm not the dude you want to jack with on here.
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Originally Posted by hustler
this is the last time you will type to me like this on the forum. I'm far to jacked and pumped to sit here and let a bitch like you talk **** to me. I don't think you realize that I just repped double my body weight on the bench. Seriously bro, I'm not the dude you want to jack with on here.
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Savington, biggest gas mileage reducer is drag. especially drag from rotating tire. un-sprung weight doesnt make it any better either.

again, im not saying that 15x7 will perform better then 15x8/9 on track. of course it wont! as for alternatives to 6uls, there are ATS and konig rewinds that come in 15x8 with usable offset.

and yes, i would gladly roll on daisies on the street if they would clear my brakes. unfortunately they dont :/
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
and yes, i would gladly roll on daisies on the street if they would clear my brakes. unfortunately they dont :/
Of course. Why not?

"No turbo."

Doesn't really matter then.
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holy **** dawg drop it. go stretch some 185s. who gives a **** about gas mileage when you cant hard without the rear stepping out.
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Originally Posted by Nagase
Of course. Why not?

"No turbo."

Doesn't really matter then.
im pretty sure my n/a car will be faster then your car with a turbo
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