Coilover spring length
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Depends on the spring rate, car weight, desired ride height, and the difference between spring's free length, adn block length.
Basically you want the spring's installed length, *at full bump*, to be just a bit longer than the spring's block length.
Use FCM's spreadsheet.
Basically you want the spring's installed length, *at full bump*, to be just a bit longer than the spring's block length.
Use FCM's spreadsheet.
Thanks, how does it ride on the street? This is for my daily so I want it to not make me sick.
#45
I'd say it's perfectly livable, so long as exceptional comfort isn't one of your primary goals. It's compromised towards not bottoming the bump stops, and it's pretty good at doing that. I forgot to mention, and it's worth noting, that they're Shaikh's re-valves.
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It rides surprisingly well, though not as well as my setup with the stock springs and Bernie's re-valved Bilsteins. Being twice the normal spring rate, though, that's to be expected.
I'd say it's perfectly livable, so long as exceptional comfort isn't one of your primary goals. It's compromised towards not bottoming the bump stops, and it's pretty good at doing that. I forgot to mention, and it's worth noting, that they're Shaikh's re-valves.
I'd say it's perfectly livable, so long as exceptional comfort isn't one of your primary goals. It's compromised towards not bottoming the bump stops, and it's pretty good at doing that. I forgot to mention, and it's worth noting, that they're Shaikh's re-valves.
#47
While you're mulling over the 350/225 Hypercoils, you might give a thought to their 8x225 / 10x150 springs. They're effectively the same rates as the MSM springs you found worked so well, but might work with your GC/NB setup as well.
Last edited by Thucydides; 03-28-2011 at 11:54 PM.
#49
Im a little more confused on what i want now. I was thinking maybe
Koni sport front 6" spring 450 rate with koni sleeve/perch nb top hat
koni sport rear 7" spring 350 rate with koni sleeve/perch nb top hat
Big sway bar in front.
I want something capable of going low enough, but with a decent ride quality and handleing. Im not looking for the best, just a set-up that will get the job done for what i want it to do. Its a second car that will mostly get street driven as i live in the country with nice driving roads around.
Koni sport front 6" spring 450 rate with koni sleeve/perch nb top hat
koni sport rear 7" spring 350 rate with koni sleeve/perch nb top hat
Big sway bar in front.
I want something capable of going low enough, but with a decent ride quality and handleing. Im not looking for the best, just a set-up that will get the job done for what i want it to do. Its a second car that will mostly get street driven as i live in the country with nice driving roads around.
#53
And your ride height will go up an inch and a half. Otherwise, yeah, that's the solution.
Wait, are you suggesting that route with adjustable bottom perches? Actually, that should work and there's no worries about NB top mount fittings cobbled to work with NA shocks. Also, NB shocks are valved pretty good from the factory, unlike their NA cousins which are **** out of the box. Good idea.
Wait, are you suggesting that route with adjustable bottom perches? Actually, that should work and there's no worries about NB top mount fittings cobbled to work with NA shocks. Also, NB shocks are valved pretty good from the factory, unlike their NA cousins which are **** out of the box. Good idea.
#54
So nb shocks and top hats, with adjustable coilover sleeves will still be able to go as low na shocks with nb top hats? If they're an 1-1/2 longer how does that work? Wouldnt the shock just be compressed an inch and half more? i thought you would want shorter shocks to be able to go lower.
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And your ride height will go up an inch and a half. Otherwise, yeah, that's the solution.
Wait, are you suggesting that route with adjustable bottom perches? Actually, that should work and there's no worries about NB top mount fittings cobbled to work with NA shocks. Also, NB shocks are valved pretty good from the factory, unlike their NA cousins which are **** out of the box. Good idea.
Wait, are you suggesting that route with adjustable bottom perches? Actually, that should work and there's no worries about NB top mount fittings cobbled to work with NA shocks. Also, NB shocks are valved pretty good from the factory, unlike their NA cousins which are **** out of the box. Good idea.
#58
I believe the shocks are also a bit longer, but the majority of the increase in ride height when swapping out NA parts for NB parts on an NA car is mostly a function of spring length and the position of the lower perch on the shock. If you're using aftermarket springs and adjustable lower perches you can probably work around that problem reasonably easily.
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Anything to worry about here?
92
Car sits at 11.5/11.75
Sending my extra set of Koni yellows to be revalved
NB top hats
Probably going to end up with ground control sleeves
Thinking
700 F 5"
450 R 6"
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Car sits at 11.5/11.75
Sending my extra set of Koni yellows to be revalved
NB top hats
Probably going to end up with ground control sleeves
Thinking
700 F 5"
450 R 6"