Ground Control Sleeves question
#2
Probably, but be forewarned that the fit of the NA GC sleeves on my NA Bilsteins is pretty sketchy. GC supplies one "fits all" sleeve for the Miata (despite the fact that Konis, Billys & AGXs have different diameters and perches). The shock can literally bang around inside the sleeve and it seems that one big midwest pothole at speed could force the Billy right past the ill fitting GC sleeve perch.
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I don't see why not. My spec had a coil over kit and it used the NA HD's. It had a ring on it to hold the sleve on it. Just make shure that the sleve is not loose and wont rock.
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Jared
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Jared
#4
hrm... well my plan is defeated anyways because the sleeves I found were mis-labeled as Bilstein sleeves when they were in fact Koni sleeves.
BUT... they are a great price, so do you think I could order the insert from GC for the NA Bilsteins? Has anyone done this before and if you have how much was it?
BUT... they are a great price, so do you think I could order the insert from GC for the NA Bilsteins? Has anyone done this before and if you have how much was it?
#7
hrm... well my plan is defeated anyways because the sleeves I found were mis-labeled as Bilstein sleeves when they were in fact Koni sleeves.
BUT... they are a great price, so do you think I could order the insert from GC for the NA Bilsteins? Has anyone done this before and if you have how much was it?
BUT... they are a great price, so do you think I could order the insert from GC for the NA Bilsteins? Has anyone done this before and if you have how much was it?
#10
Falcon,
Pulled out the GC Sleeve setup and compared the AL insert ring to the Bilstein AL spring perch for use with standard Miata springs. Looks like mounting the GC sleeve directly on top of the Bilstein perch will be about 1" higher than using the GC sleeve directly on top of the Bilstein shock (albeit, with a loose and sloppy fit. Here's some pics:
1. Bilstein perch on left, GC sleeve in center (note recess in sleeve for press spacer), and AGX spacer ring on right.
2. Size comparison of AGX spacer ring to Bilstein perch. Bilstein is about 1/8 inch thicker, but AFAIK, "standard" GC application is to locate Bilstein shock ring at top of recess cut into GC sleeve (approx 1/2" up from bottom of sleeve). Thus, running GC sleeve on top of Bilstein perch will result in about spring being about 1" higher (1/2" recess in sleeve plus 1/2" thickness of Bilstein perch) than if mounting shock directly on/in sleeve. I'd still go for the bargain GC sleeves, you can always machine the AL insert rings if mounting the sleeves on top of the stock Bilstein perches does not let you lower the car enough (BTW, don't lower the car at all if you are using stock bumpstops).
Pulled out the GC Sleeve setup and compared the AL insert ring to the Bilstein AL spring perch for use with standard Miata springs. Looks like mounting the GC sleeve directly on top of the Bilstein perch will be about 1" higher than using the GC sleeve directly on top of the Bilstein shock (albeit, with a loose and sloppy fit. Here's some pics:
1. Bilstein perch on left, GC sleeve in center (note recess in sleeve for press spacer), and AGX spacer ring on right.
2. Size comparison of AGX spacer ring to Bilstein perch. Bilstein is about 1/8 inch thicker, but AFAIK, "standard" GC application is to locate Bilstein shock ring at top of recess cut into GC sleeve (approx 1/2" up from bottom of sleeve). Thus, running GC sleeve on top of Bilstein perch will result in about spring being about 1" higher (1/2" recess in sleeve plus 1/2" thickness of Bilstein perch) than if mounting shock directly on/in sleeve. I'd still go for the bargain GC sleeves, you can always machine the AL insert rings if mounting the sleeves on top of the stock Bilstein perches does not let you lower the car enough (BTW, don't lower the car at all if you are using stock bumpstops).
Last edited by sn95; 03-30-2010 at 02:14 AM.
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